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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Specifically, about Miranda weapons.

The DS9TM says it's got two torp-tubes, but there's more on the model. It has at least four. What does the Starship Spotter say?

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Don't have the book at home (I can answer your question in about 10 hours), but weapon counts in the SS aren't very reliable. I found ca. 6 instances where SS has wrong numbers.

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From SS:

Weapons:
6 Type VII-12 Twin Mount Phaser Emplacements (6 Banks/2 Each) *wrong as there's one more bank underneath the Impulse Engines*
2 Multi-Directional Pulsephaser Pulse Cannons *wrong as the cannons also face aft, so there are two more*
4 Mk 22 Mod 1 Direct-Fire Photon Torpedo Tubes *correct, for once*

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Sol System
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I'm pretty sure that's covered in the "multidirectional" bit.

My question is, is this supposed to be the original factory specs or what Mirandas look like now? We haven't seen those weapons being fired since The Wrath of Khan, but since the features are still there (at least on those Mirandas which have a rollbar) they presumably serve some function. Can a Miranda really serve as a low-rent Defiant these days?

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Didn't we see a rear-firing torpedo in TWOK? Where's THAT tube?

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Er...on the rollbar in the big torpedo launcher unit?
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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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So then there's four tubes in the pod? Or are they just two tubes capable of firing both fwd and aft?

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I think that's the idea. Given the relative size of the Connie's forward launchers, it's generally assumed by many that the Mirandas have four separate launchers and their associated subsystems in that pod.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Then what about the two tubes on the underside?

See this pic:



That's an emplacement nearly identical to the refit-Connie's. That's two MORE tubes. So if there's four in the pod, then the ship actaully has SIX tubes.

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That's most certainly not a torpedo system, MMoM. I believe that's the Miranda main navigational deflector and sensor array. It would serve the same purpose on the refit Connies when it saucer separates.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Are you looking at the same thing I'm looking at, Dax?

That thing on the bottom? Glowing red? Exactly like the connecting dorsal torp tubes on the Connie?

Last time I checked, that is *not* what a nav-deflector or a sensor pallate looks like.

The Miranda has its nav-deflector emitters on the top of the saucer towards the rear, right? (Cirled in yellow.) That embankment on the ventral side is a pair of torp tubes. (Circled in red.)




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Malnurtured Snay
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I didn't know the Miranda-Class was hosted by Angel Fire. Most enlightening.

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Yep, everything has corporate sponsers now... including starships.

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Yes, I'm looking at the same thing you are, MMoM. I just don't agree with you on what it is.

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Yeah, 'cuz if the red things at the bottom of the saucer are torpedo launchers, doesn't that mean there's one on the bridge, too?

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