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Dukhat
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Just bought the newest Star Trek: The Magazine, & got a pleasant surprise: There's yet another Excelsior study model! (Sorry, won't have access to my scanner until Sunday night, so no pics yet).

However, I believe that this model was also used at Qualor II. It's another four-nacelled ship, and the ship in this screencap that we all thought was another view of the known four-naceller is actually another model:

http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/qualornew04.jpg

I can tell it's a different model because it has an underslung "pod" where the deflector dish is. This screencap shows the same pod.

Anyway, the article has terrific huge pics of all the study models. The first pic shows top & side views of the new study model. The second pic shows the top & side views of the "Flat" study model, which was the one labeled U.S.S. Alka-Selsior, with a registry of NCC-1404. The third pic shows a new side view of the known four-nacelled model. The fourth pic shows a top, front and rear view of the model that looks the most like the Excelsior. However, they screwed up by showing a side view of the other study model (the one that looks similar to the finished model, but with several small differences). This model has a registry of NCC-1X00 (I can't tell what the second number is).

I'll post scans here Sunday night, unless someone beats me to them first.

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AndrewR
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quote:
It's another four-nacelled ship
OK! People PAY UP!! I was right!! That ship in the 'preview' had 4 nacelles!!

No one would BELIEVE me... *sigh* [Wink]

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I can tell it's a different model because it has an underslung "pod" where the deflector dish is. This screencap shows the same pod.

And if I remember correctly from that preview pic... it also had 2 large 'squares' behind the saucer (like where the impulse engines might be) - which the previously known 4-naceller didn't have.

Andrew

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Jason Abbadon
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Sure looks like the regular 4-naceller to me.

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Harry
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Bleh. I still say the top and side view of the preview were of different ships [Razz]

BTW, I thought this Mag wasn't supposed to come out until well into December?

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A very silly question-
These ships were seen in the filmed Star Trek. They both have registries. Do we accept these registries as canon?

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Fancy form it is. Of poetry? Certainly.

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The Red Admiral
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Very interersting. I look forward to seeing the scans...

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You can accept the names if you want. They're not meant to be taken seriously. Take alook at many LCAR labels as well, if you want.
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Jason Abbadon
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What names are these?

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Jason Abbadon
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What names are these?

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quote:
Originally posted by Dukhat:
The second pic shows the top & side views of the "Flat" study model, which was the one labeled U.S.S. Alka-Selsior, with a registry of NCC-1404.


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The359
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One could go out on a limb and say there was a USS Excelsior NCC-1404, the predecessor to the Excelsior NX-2000. Of course, it would help if we didn't know that the model looks like something from post-TOS.

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Sol System
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Except that isn't the name of the ship in question.

There are, I suppose, some fairly interesting semiotic issues here, and in the registry number thread, but to discuss them seems frightening.

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And no discussion at all about Rick Sternbach's U.S.S. Stargazer article, complete with cutaway and full Constellation class production list, yet? Hmm... [Smile]

I think I'll hold off before adding any of these ship names to my personal list. But the designs themselves are pretty neat, and would work well as Excelsior derivatives in the pre-Ambassador Excelsior era, even if most were just one-offs...

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I am ok with the name Alka-Selsior. I like to think the name is that of an alien who is remembered by a ship named for him or her.
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