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Guardian 2000
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You've probably seen it elsewhere by now, but for those who haven't:

Here is a fascinating bit of conjecture regarding Star Wars based upon just the films. I don't think some of it is plausible, but it's neat all the same.

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AndrewR
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I like that. Funny too cause everyone always focuses on Luke/Leia/Han not Yoda/Chewbacca/R2D2.

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Reverend
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I did wonder if there was a reason why Ben made a b-line for Chewie at the cantina, I mean it does look like they know each other.

I agree though, most of that is implausible. However cute and appealing R2 is, he's still just a droid, not a rebel spy and from the official back story, Han rescued Chewie from imperial enslavement (hence his reaction to the binders) while he was an Imperial officer (hence his knowledge of standard Imperial Procedures.) Though I think at one point Han was going to have been raised by Wookies; supposedly a young had was at one point going to take part in the battle of Kashyyyk seen in RotS. Not that those two stories are mutually exclusive.

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Mars Needs Women
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I don't like the whole "option C" since it seems uncharacteristic of Jedi to kill some one just because they think that the person will turn out evil.
Also, the author forgets about Mon Mothma, who as far as I can tell has always been considered the founder and leader of the Rebellion. She appears in Return of the Jedi and in deleted scenes from Revenge of the Sith in which she discusses with other senators a plan for dealing with Palpy's growing power.

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MinutiaeMan
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That is fucking AWESOME!

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"However cute and appealing R2 is, he's still just a droid, not a rebel spy..."

I dunno. I always got the impression that R2 was supposed to be at least as smart as all the humans.

"...from the official back story, Han rescued Chewie from imperial enslavement (hence his reaction to the binders) while he was an Imperial officer (hence his knowledge of standard Imperial Procedures.)"

I don't know about any "official backstory", but this guy's essay seems to have a pretty firm basis in on-screen evidence.

"I don't like the whole 'option C' since it seems uncharacteristic of Jedi to kill some one just because they think that the person will turn out evil."

That's certainly true prior to RotS. However, it seems like an arguement could be made that even Jedis might take some pretty extreme measures if they are worried about the rise of a second Vader-like figure. Considering that the rise of the first Vader resulted in the complete annihilation of all but two Jedi.

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Da_bang80
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There was a backstory in the EU books "The Han Solo Trilogy" Where Han saved Chewie from an Imperial slaver who was whipping him to death. It's been a while since I've read the books, so I'm a little fuzzy on the details.

And Wikipedia has this interesting snippet:

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A scheduled rendezvous with a slaving vessel revealed that an adult Wookiee had overwhelmed the crew and released the Wookiee children that were to be sold. Leading a TIE fighter squadron, Han boarded the damaged ship and found a barely conscious Wookiee, Chewbacca, in the pilots seat. Commander Nyklas ordered the young lieutenant to skin the Wookiee; Han refused to do so. He later lost his lieutenants commission and was dishonorably discharged. In this way did Chewbacca swear a life-debt to his rescuer, and from then on the two were inseparable.
I've never heard anything remotely similar to that, so I can't vouch for it's accuracy.

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I can dig for sources once I have everything unpacked, but that's an amalgam of snippets from the character description that was part of the pre-production for A New Hope, embellished and added to by Brian Daly's Han Solo adventures, West End Games' RPG books, Ann Crispin's Han Solo Trilogy, and others.

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Jason Abbadon
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How can a TIE fighter board anything?
They cant even land!
An ISD has racks that hold/launch the silly things...

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Da_bang80
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Well, A TIE Fighter can land using the bottom of it's wing panels as landing skids. Maybe the freighter had a small hangar bay? Or possibly a docking port?

Like I said I've never heard of that particular theory, I don't even know what source the article got it's information from.

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I really doubt a solar/whatever type fin like on the TIE would be sturdy enough to use for landing, despite the toys and video game images.
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Da_bang80
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Using that logic, wouldn't a Huey Cobra's landing skids be too flimsy to land on? TIE's may look flimsy in the movies, but I'm they're much sturdier than they look.

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MinutiaeMan
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Considering how quickly we've seen them fly apart in various circumstances, I'm not sure I'd agree. [Razz]

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Peregrinus
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The boarding is conducted by the pilot leaving the fighter, and entering the other ship's airlock. There aren't any life-support systems in a TIE Fighter -- the pilots' flight-suits are self-contained.

--Jonah

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Da_bang80
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Interesting. But what stops them from floating away into space when they leave the TIE? For that matter, how do they stop the fighter itself from floating away after the pilot leaves the craft? I don't think TIE Fighters were really designed to to be degressed in space. I'm pretty sure that article's wrong. We know TIE's are capable of atmospheric flight, so wouldn't it make sense for them to be able to land in one also? Without the need for specialized docking gear?

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