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Malnurtured Snay
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Hijack those planes?

How did they smuggle weapons onboard?

John McCain believed that the terrorists had trained pilots among their number -- makes sense, an American pilot might've chosen to crash their plane instead of using it as a bomb -- so we're talking probably two or three per plane ...

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Nim
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maybe an american pilot made that decision in pittsburgh.

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Malnurtured Snay
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Good point.

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Nim
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it doesn't take much to make those big planes stall, he could've just pulled a big lever and hung on it for as long as he could

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An inside man? A pilot. John Nance said on ABC news that the 757 and 767 are aircraft that can be piloted by a pilot who has trained on one of the two.
Let me clarify: If you can fly one of them, you can fly the other with little training.

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Malnurtured Snay
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He'd still need help restraining the other crewmembers.

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PsyLiam
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Couldn't the terroists have acted like normal terroists at first?

"Take this plane to New York or I start shooting people"?

Then, when they got near their target, they could have shot the pilot and took over. Some reports have said that if all you need to do is point the plane at a target, and fly into it, most people could do it, even if they were untrained.

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CBS reported that "knife like devices" were used according to a source.

My guess is they used Ceramic Knives or perhaps they had crafted some time of crude put together fire arm and found someway to smuggle the parts aboard then put them together.

I really doubt that they revealed their plans to the pilot and crew, they probley just said "hey ,give me the plane or I start to pull triggers or poke people"

Odds are the reports of flight experiance among the hijackers are correct , with the resources these groups have I'm sure they had some kind of training.

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USS Vanguard
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How the fuck do they know what weapons these guys used, pardon my french? Just a rhetorical question, but one worth answering probably

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Someone called her husband from the plane that crashed into the Pentagon using a cell phone. Her name escapes me, but she was an author, who wrote a book about Clinton's last days in office and the stunts he and his people pulled. Her husband also works for Bush. Solicitor General, IIRC.

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The plane that hit the Pentagon had a prominent woman lawyer who's married to a US official. She called her husband on her cell phone and said that the hijackers had some kind of knife type weapons, then her phone went dead. Similar stories are being reported where passengers from the other flights were able to use their cell phones and called 911 or loved ones. One report had mentioned that the crew and passengers were moved in the back of the plane before it hit one of the Twin Towers. Oh, about sneaking onboard with weapons, there was a report from a civilian aviation group showing how easy it is to get a job in an airport and access all areas.

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Apparently, the knives were like X-acto box-opening knives... wouldn't be difficult to smuggle, since the blade is just a razor blade and the handle's often plastic.

It's time we brought back having armed air marshals on flights.

As to whether or not the pilot ditched the plane rather than crash into Camp David (or more likely, finish what the Pentagon attackers started)... we'll probably never know. If he did, don't expect to hear about it... because as soon as that got out, somebody would sue the airline because 'the pilot killed their family.'

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Malnurtured Snay
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The Boston Herald's site has a headline which states, "Little Known Rule Allows Knife Carrying On Flights", but the link is dead. D'oh!

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USS Vanguard
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Ah thanks for the info. And carrying knives on a flight isn't really all that weird. How many of us have had a swiss army knife or a leatherman tool attached to our key chain while on a plane?

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Jeff Raven
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They found a car of two suspects with books on piloting in arabic.

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