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Saltah'na
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Thou Shalt not worship Godly objects....

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djewell
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Don't get me started. They are hypocrites! Their religous views are none, and they are imposing that view upon the state of Alabama. Also, if it were a picture of the Koran, do you think it would be ordered to be removed? If it were a line from the Book of Mormon do you think it would be ordered to be removed?

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Omega
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The ten commandments have historical as well as religious significance. They are, or at least can be, a symbol of law in general. Frankly, I wouldn't have a problem with a fitting quote from the book of Mormon either.

However, this particular judge's reasons for putting the monument there are a violation of the seperation of church and state as it has been interpreted. Of course, the first ammendment doesn't say anything about what state governments can do in that area of things, so it's really not a federal matter to handle it.

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Jason Abbadon
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I totally agree with that Judge!
I say alienate all non-christians!
How dare they expect to arrive at a federal building expecting us not to rub our pompass, self-rightous religion in their faces?
I mean, what the hell were they thinking, that they were equal regardless of their religous background?
Nonsense!
I say they should be forced to wear a cross if they want to enter a federal courthouse!
The nerve of some people.

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Omega
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If you think Christianity is either pompass or self-righteous, you don't know much about Christianity.

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Jason Abbadon
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Tell it to all those it's harrased, intimidated, forcibly converted and generally fucked with.
"Christianity" includes all it's kooky derivitives: baptists, catholics, prodastants, mormons and assorted nutjobs and pedophiles.
"Pompass and self rightous" describes the church to a tee....pass the collection plate, brother.
You're thinking of the ideal of christianity wherein people judge not and turn the other cheek....but that sure never happens.

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Veers
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Here we go again... [Roll Eyes]

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djewell
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Tell it to all those it's harrased, intimidated, forcibly converted and generally fucked with.
"Christianity" includes all it's kooky derivitives: baptists, catholics, prodastants, mormons and assorted nutjobs and pedophiles.
"Pompass and self rightous" describes the church to a tee....pass the collection plate, brother.
You're thinking of the ideal of christianity wherein people judge not and turn the other cheek....but that sure never happens.

I don't think you've made enough of an effort to understand the Christian Church.

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Omega
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You're thinking of the ideal of christianity wherein people judge not and turn the other cheek....but that sure never happens.

No, I'm thinking of Christianity, which is a religious belief, a way to live one's life. You're thinking of individual people in history who have claimed to be Christians without actually following Christian beliefs. Those people are NOT Christianity, nor is any group of people. Christianity is a way of life, and it's no more accurate to call it a religion of harrasment and self-righteousness than it is to call Islam a religion of terrorism and slaughter of innocents.

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Cartman
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"...individual people in history who have claimed to be Christians..."

Like you?

Christianity (and, for that matter, ANY religion) is in the eye of the beholder, you see.

"I don't think you've made enough of an effort to understand the Christian Church."

While the church itself makes EVERY effort to be understood, right?

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Mucus
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quote:
Originally posted by djewell:
I don't think you've made enough of an effort to understand the Christian Church.

Heh, which one? [Wink]
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djewell
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The universal one, mucus.

Cartmaniac, you should have read the whole sentence: Individuals in history who have claimed to be christians while not following Christian beliefs.

Never extrapolate meaning without first knowing the whole statement.

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Pompous.
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Cartman
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Anyone can claim to be a True Christian. Omega does. He also claims to follow True Christian beliefs. But you know what? People don't believe him. Because the beliefs that he holds are, shall we say, aberrant. Whenever Omega raises the True vs. False Christians issue, he is told this. It doesn't register with him. Thus here we are.

So before you throw your self-righteous tantrum about not extrapolating meaning without first knowing the whole statement, you'd do good to take your own advice and maybe, just maybe, read the whole sentence.

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Omega
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Anyone can claim to be a True Christian. Omega does.

Why is this about me, suddenly?

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