Remember the Political Compass site that was posted here twicebefore? I happened to come across a reference to it at another site and decided to take the quiz again to see how my politics have changed in the past few years. I got a -7.38/-7.08. Apparently, as I get older, I'm turning into quite the commie anarchist.
Back when it was first posted, I drew up a chart to show all our scores in relation to one another. I've decided to update it, using the scores from the last time the topic came up, and my new score. Anyone else care to see how the inexorable flow of time has affected their sensibilities?
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
I'm right now:
Economic Left/Right: -6.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
Economic Left/Right: -5.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Some of them I didn't really think that long about - so it mightn't be true and I've taken a different website's test like this and I was in a different position. Anyway my quick go at this resulted in:
Economic Left/Right: -5.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44
Just to the right of Ghandi! heheheh.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
Economic Left/Right: -4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.21
It seems I've moved a bit...
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -2.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.44
I'm getting more bossy and conservative in my old age, apparently.
Posted by Zefram (Member # 1568) on :
This is first time I've taken the test:
Your political compass Economic Left/Right: 4.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.05
I guess this means that, unless I'm looking for a fight, I should avoid talking politics around here.
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
Before, 8 June 2001: Economic Left/Right: -3.27 Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.23
Now, 4 February 2006: Economic Left/Right: -5.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Economic Left/Right -5.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -2.82
Pretty close to where Ghandi is.
And pretty close to where it was before: i got economic: -3.88 and authoritarian/libertarian: -2.72
I guess marijuana's mellowed me out even more than I was before.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Economic Left/Right: -7.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
Man, something is wrong here. I'm out-liberaled by Veers.
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Economic Left/Right: -6.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.31
(Move over, Ghandi.)
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28
So far, I guess Lee wins the prize for Most Drastic Change. Though, I'm still looking forward to seeing how Omega comes out.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
And I'm the most leftie person here, ever? Odd. I can imagine how some of my answers would have led to that - but then I can't imagine answering any different 5 years ago.
C'mon, people, do the test! And some of the old results can probably be removed, I mean, who the fuck is/was MerloMo? And maybe He Who Can Not Be Named can contribute by PM. . .
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
I don't remember the questions being so biased toward the left last time I saw this. (Note that I say this as someone who ended up near the center but toward the lower left.)
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
So far First of Two and I are the only people who have ever moved both rightward and upward on this chart.
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Economic Left/Right: -5.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -6.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.74
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Economic Left/Right: -3.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Oh, you so win.
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Oh my god. I'm more conservative and bossy than Omega.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Hey, where was I last time? Currently, I'm sitting pretty at: Economic Left/Right: -5.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46
What happened to Omega? He's all over the board there....posession? Multiple personality disorder?
As with last time, I'm hanging out with the Dali Lama. It's the "no underwear, sit around all day" thing.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Omega is slowly being corrupted by this board and moving to the left! Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
You mean "liberated". Yes, you do.
(Omega ending up where Tom was is hysterically funny on some grand cosmic level.)
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: As with last time, I'm hanging out with the Dali Lama. It's the "no underwear, sit around all day" thing.
Ya. That no underwear, sit around all day thing is great. A word from the wise tho: remember to get up and walk around once in a while or your ass will go numb
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
That explains that goofy smaile he always has... Or it's having Richard Gere as his mouthpiece.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Personally, I'm not doing the test because I think that the way that it's worded is leading. In other words, it's not neutral enough.
B.J.
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
Economic Left/Right: -3.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.03
Holy shit, what happened to Omega?
The test has also changed quite a bit. There are plenty of new questions. They may have adjusted the forumla as well...
So over the years, I've moved a bit left, and a bit authoritarian.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
According to the test's FAQ :
"21. Politics have moved, but you're still using the old economic parameters. Some critics have argued that, because the universal political centre has moved to the right, our axes should correspondingly move to the right. This, however, would not indicate how far one way or the other society has shifted. It could not convey paradoxes such as the fact that, in the UK, New Labour occupies an economic position to the right of pre-Thatcher Conservatives. Where was the centre, for example, in Apartheid South Africa ? In Third Reich society, such a skewed analysis might show a Nazi opposed to the death chambers as representing liberal opinion.
"Narrowing the standard political goalposts to accommodate merely the range of mainstream opinion within any given society at a given time is not only historically uninstructive; it is unscientific."
So, presumably, they haven't changed the formula. I did notice that some of the questions were different, though.
"So over the years, I've moved a bit left, and a bit authoritarian."
You're one of four so far who have moved up and left. Five of us have moved down and left. And then there's Mucus, who's done both.
And then Siegfried. Who's just weird, apparently.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I think Omey's faked his latest score. No way could he have a nearly-perfect straight line from three results. It's a plot! He's going to suddenly reveal he never changed (like the Soviet Union in "Simpson Tide") and triumphantly go out to bomb an abortion clinic!
I might have to drop Orion a line, see what his latest result is. And someone poke Snay (aka JeffK) with a sharp stick.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
quote:It's a plot!
Well, yes, otherwise you wouldn't notice the straight line.
*rimshot*
Seriously, though, without knowing what answers I put before, and for that matter what questions they asked before, we can't really explain ANY results.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I know, silly, I'm teasing. And, groan.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Economic Left/Right: 1.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.41
And last time: Economic Left/Right: -2.62 Authoritarian/Libertarian: -0.31.
Posted by Not Invented Here (Member # 1606) on :
Economic Left/Right: -0.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.69
About as central as you can get...
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
Economic Left/Right: -5.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.62
Puts me comfortably in the vicinity of Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. And, if there were more questions (planning on submitting some suggestions), probably right around and Gene Roddenberry, too. With more questions to help fine-tune things further, I'd probably drift a little closer to the crosshairs.
--Jonah
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Topher is Fabrux!?!
And I didn't realise I was so Left.
And what ever happened to Frank?
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
Economic Left/Right: -4.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Topher is Fabrux!?!
I thought that was common knowledge, but given the amount of surprise I get from people I guess its not...
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: And then Siegfried. Who's just weird, apparently.
Mom did have a habit of dropping me on my head during my infancy... and through my teens.
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
Your mom carried you about while you were still in your teens?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Or she picked him up for the express purpose of dropping him.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
They're different in Texas.
Frank went to college and found somebody who'd sleep with him, and appears to have become a much better human being as a result. Well, he couldn't have been much worse. 8)
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
What ever happened to Austin Powers? Or the Red Admiral (he's not quite as scarce though)...
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
People move on. Well, most of them do anyway. This community has now existed in one form or another for nine years! I used to spend a lot of time here, and resented it, and wished I could find something better to do. . . But now I've come to accept it as just somewhere I pop in to whenever I'm on the computer (which is most of the time, working in IT) and have a spare few minutes. Because, well, I love you guys! Oh, you've been a part of my life for so long - a small and sordid part, but still a part. I feel I have a small investment in your welfare. Group hug!
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
*sniff* I feel so loved! *sniff*
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
No one asked you.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
Well thank you so much for ruining my happy moment. I'm going to go write my suicide note now...
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Don't forget to post it on your MySpace page.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Aww Lee - what a nice sentiment - the 'group hug' post not the post it to your MySpace page.
9 years! *yikes* - back with the old inline board. Yes not another one of those 'remember' posts.
I have a distinct memory, posting about the 4 new First Contact Classes. Identity Crisis replied to one of my posts. This was back when the board was connected to UP. Or before that, or something. I also used to post to Trekweb then - GAH!
Still wish CC would do the 'festive' colour changes on certain days like he did once... Valentines Day is coming up - I'm sure this forum would look... GREAT... in shades of pink... Gah! Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
*pukes quietly in a corner* The cloying sweetness is nice and all, but please, no pink!
--Jonah
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Well at least you are puking quietly!
Happy Love Day! Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
What about those of us who do don't see any form of love? Why don't they have a "I hate Everybody and wish they were dead" day?
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
I usually take advantage of the free candy
Posted by tricky (Member # 1402) on :
If you can convince a greeting card company to do "I hate you and wish you were dead" cards, then a "I8U" day would soon be marketed. Maybe you could get cards with various political leader's name already printed? We could send one to TrekBBS, or the writer of Voyager's "threshold", or who ever got the length of the Defiant wrong in vFx....
Do Al Qaeda have a mailing address?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Many countries already have "I hate you" days. Iran has one whole day dedicated to hating/destroying Israel (though every day seems to fall into that category, I guess).
No greeting cards I know of, but someone makes a ton of cash by selling Israel and American flags to be burned.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
They'll soon be adding Denmark flags to the list. That cartoon that Danish guy made has been stirring up a lot of trouble lately.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
And guess who's guilty by effing association.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
I dunno. Who? I don't read a lot of news surrounding the Iraq war/Middle Eastern politics anymore.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nim: And guess who's guilty by effing association.
Sadly, the Iranian (idiot) president is calling for the state newspapers to have a "Challenge the Holocaust" run of comics "to see if the west can really practice freedom of speach then".
Er...what the fuck? It's really Iran continuing to provoke Israel however possible (dont know why- eventually, Iran would lose badly in a military conflict) and calling it a response to the cartoons.
Y'know...the ones that started in Denmark (hardly a Jewish stronghold in Europe).
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"That cartoon that Danish guy made has been stirring up a lot of trouble lately."
There were twelve cartoons. By different people.
"Sadly, the Iranian (idiot) president is calling for the state newspapers to have a 'Challenge the Holocaust' run of comics 'to see if the west can really practice freedom of speach then'."
"Speech". And I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that, if they do it, the grand total of Iranian embassies that get burned down over it will be less than one.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Surely not?! YOu mean that the Jews wont got fucking insane over a cartoon?
Even a completely false or degrading one (like the ones that already run every day in arab newspapers)?
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
what exactly happened?
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Maybe I've just been called Jesus -- or Jeebus -- often enough that I've gone flash-blind to that sort of "insult", but it seems to my Psych 101 learnin' to be a very insecure response on the part of Iran/Muslims. I mean... it's almost like reading an account of some ghetto kid getting shot over a pair of shoes. They have no real sense of self-worth, so they ascribe so much worth or importance to arbitrary things outside the self that they have to defend something that others who are more secure in themselves would deem silly.
I'm proud of being Scottish (among other things), but it doesn't really matter beyond the realm of personal beliefs, so if someone points and laughs at the guy wearing the skirt, I don't feel like I have to kill him in a gory public spectacle to prove myself.
What are they protecting? Muhammed won't care! He's been dead for fifteen centuries! If those people offended by these cartoons were truly secure in themselves, they'd see them and feel pity for the poor Europeans who obviously don't understand Islam and its Prophet, and so fear it and feel the need to denegrate it. And then go on with their lives of quiet piety.
Wouldn't THAT be a fucking wonderful change of pace for the planet?
--Jonah
Posted by tricky (Member # 1402) on :
Well considering between Israel and Iran is Jordan, Syria and Iraq, I doubt an air or land attack is possible, so they're not going to start declaring war on each other.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
DaBang wrote:
quote:I dunno. Who? I don't read a lot of news surrounding the Iraq war/Middle Eastern politics anymore.
Sweden, that is my country, did. Just because we are their neighbors. Also, norwegian flags have been burnt because they look similar (red-white-blue to Denmark's red-white). And I think some swiss ones, also red-white and the name is sometimes mixed up with Sweden's.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
quote:What are they protecting? Muhammed won't care!
There's one thing that's a sure-fire argument against killing to defend the honor of your God: if your God was actually offended, and actually wanted someone to die because of it, do you REALLY think he'd need YOU to take care of it for him?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by tricky: Well considering between Israel and Iran is Jordan, Syria and Iraq, I doubt an air or land attack is possible, so they're not going to start declaring war on each other.
That was Iraq's reasoning back before Israel blew up it's nuclear reactor/refinery waaay back.
Israel wont (cant, really) allow anyone declaring they "want to kill all the Jews" to develop a nuke. They dont need to decalare a war- only launch an airstrike or three on select targets. They'll suffer an increase in suicide bombers, but compared with a nuke, it's minor.
While the notion of a pre-emptive war seems an oxymoron, it's a grim reality there.
What's senseless is that Iran's president seems intent on provoking Israel as much as possible- not making anything easier on muslims anywhere and even drawing fire from Egypt and Saudi Arabia for it.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
It makes me wonder when Jews, Muslims, and Christians can't get along. I mean, they worship the same fucking God... Sure the scriptures and teachings are different. But it's still the same God they're all worshiping...
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
Depends on how you mean the term. My conception of God as a Christian is different from a Jew's conception of God in some ways, and a Muslim's concept of God is far more different. They may all attribute the same historical events to God, but their understanding of his nature is different. So it's the same being, sure, but that doesn't make any difference if one or all groups have a mistaken understanding of how He operates.
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
Economic Left/Right: -4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.18
And I thought I was still in the economic centre of the compass. WTF?
Well, actually, after some thinking and a review of the questions, my sudden shift to the left may be due to the fact that I have lost a lot of faith in the corporate world, mostly in light of the business scandals that are going on these days, and the exploitation that takes place within such corporations..... But that alone should not be a deciding factor on my shift to the left. For starters, I would have considered voting Conservative in the last Canadian election, in which I would have favoured the tax benefits towards myself. Unfortunately, the conservative party had certain policies that would have been on the upper side of the Authoritarian/Libertarian scale. That and the fact that Stephen Harper would most likely be a patsy of George W. Bush.
Posted by Daryus Aden (Member # 12) on :
Economic Left/Right: -5.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, Daryus has helped to expand that creepy little cluster forming around the middle of the lower left quadrant. Much more support, and I fear they'll start forming an army...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
So...me, Topher and Boh are all in the same mental place?
Hmmmm....
I wonder how this translates into the Trek galaxy quadrant map: Zephram is our only far-right Borg.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
1of2 Went from Vulcan to Romulus? Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
I seem to be a Cardassian... Cool!
--Jonah
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Spoonhead!
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
And proud of it.
--Jonah
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
So, if all goes to plan, Omega will wind up at my current location in another two years
Ec: -6.38 Sc: -5.38
(Yes, I'm slow to this particular party. Lurking has its downsides)
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Update : accomplished.
Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
Economic Left/Right: -1.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23
I guess I became slightly more centrist.
So, uh, how is everyone?
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Based on your recent posting pattern, any answer we give to that question will no longer be valid by the time you return to read it! So maybe we should extrapolate our status towards that timeframe. I died of old age three years ago Frank, how've you been?
Posted by Doctor Jonas (Member # 481) on :
Did I never give you my results? Wow, how strange. I was around -3.50 (left); and -7.25 (libertarian).
Now I am -8.50; -7.64
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, Jonas, you've broken the scale. The edges of the chartwere at 8.0. So much for that.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
It now looks like a map of the Dominion War. Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
That would make Zefram Voyager. He may ask you to step outside.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
And First would be the Prometheus, hijacked by Romulans. Which is about right.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
And I'm the Technomages, going beyond the Rim until the war's over. Er, wait. . .
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
Would that make Blue Electron and akb 1979 the Dominion?
Posted by Doctor Jonas (Member # 481) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: Well, Jonas, you've broken the scale. The edges of the chartwere at 8.0. So much for that.
I break the scale in everything. Except for weight.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
No, I do that. Har har har.
Sorry, I must have been channeling Liam for a minute, there.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Go scrub your brain. With brillo.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
-1.13,1.28
now all I need is the slope and the Y-intercept.
Or I need to adjust for windage and lighten the trigger pull.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
The way Tim and Liam bicker sometimes, I'd say they've been channeling each other for quite a while.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Is that a sex thing? Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
No. I genuinely believe that each is being regularly possessed by the spirit of the other. . .
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Or they are all just manifestations of Omega's angst being brought to life by an alien device known as N-tr-n-t
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Peregrinus: I'm proud of being Scottish (among other things), but it doesn't really matter beyond the realm of personal beliefs, so if someone points and laughs at the guy wearing the skirt, I don't feel like I have to kill him in a gory public spectacle to prove myself.
1/ People are proud to be Scottish? 2/ Ha ha you wear a skirt.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I post twice due to lazyness!
I am fat Tim yo!
No, I am sexy Liam hello.
Why am I not on that chart? I love stuff like this. I do remember doing it when I was about 21 and I was about 5 down and 1 to the left. I like social policies but not economics. Or the other way around. Now, I seem to be...
Economic Left/Right: -2.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05
Slightly less socially libertarian, slightly more economically left-wing. Huh.
What the hell happenend to Omega?
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
No-one knows, but it was certainly for the better.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I'm sure I told him this would happen. And he waved his big Jesus stick at me and said "burn, foreigner".
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