I got this from Amazon. Have any other images been released?
(edited to avoid bandwith theft)
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Isn't that a pic from last year's calendar?
Maybe it's a place-holder picture. Or they are just going to do a rehash?
Mark Nguyen (Mojo's Flare insider) said that Mojo wasn't doing it this year - which sucks. Who will be doing it this year?
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Mojo had two other people helping him out in the ST: Magazine issues that redid the ST2 Mutara Nebula battle. Maybe it's one of them.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
That actually is a pic from the 2003 calendar. It could be a placeholder or perhaps it's just for the cover and won't actually be used for any months or the centerfold.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
*ponders ship Of The Line content based on ENT*
Jan: Enterprise NX-01 Feb: Earthfleet Tanker Mar: Asteroids Apr: Asteroids May: Asteroids Jun: Asteroids Jul: Asteroids Aug: Asteroids Sep: Asteroids Oct: Asteroids Nov: Little nebula Dec: Asteroids
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Geez... I better break out the quantum torps...
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Can't wait for the centrefold; unusually high concentrations of hydrogen-3 isotope...
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
I've ordered the 2004 Stardate, TNG and SotL-calendars as soon as Amazon made them available for preorder back in January I think. I didn't get any ST-calendar this year (they weren't available or just sold out anywhere I looked for them, not even fanshops were able to get them). What they still had was the Enterprise-calendar. Ugh. Got the Simpsons-calendar instead.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
January: Cpt. Archer in tights
February: Archer in car repair shop, shirtless, one tire in each hand
Kewel! We get something then an asteroid for my birth month!
Woo Hoo!
I'm excited about this calendar now. I wasn't going go buy it at first, but when I saw that "Little nebula" entry... Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
What about some REAL suggestions for pics/pages/months?
I'd like to see the Ambassador Class at work.
A skirmish between a few Hideki's and a New Orleans and an Ambassador class from the Cardassian wars!
A view looking out from the hanger-bay of Deep Space Station K7 with The Enterprise and Sherman's planet in the distance
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
Wolf 359.
On the Dominion Wars-page (the game) they had a nice image of a Galaxy burning in space with a few smaller cardassian ships still attacking it. Parts of the hull were missing and most of the upper saucer was gone and you could see the frame structure. I always liked that one.
Maybe Romulus, with a Starbase (always impressive) and some Warbirds (and Valdores, if they have to )
More 22nd century Strfleet tech (I'm thinking of the new ships from "the expanse" right now, maybe several NX-ships fighting the Romulans in the soon-to-be-non-canon war. )
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I believe we had an extensive thread when Mojo was asking for "wha'cha wanna see" for both the calendar and UF (RIP). Where'd that one go? We had some good ideas in there.
Mark
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Cardassian War scenes with all those lovely Wolf 359 Galaxy kitbashes.
Or, a bit more ambitious, the Romulans 'liberating' Benzar. Valdores and D'deridexii in Benzite orbit, Reman cannon fodder and Romulan soldiers, attacking Dominion forces at night, Federation troops joining the morning after.
AAAAAANYWAY...
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
*hands Harry a tissue* Posted by Griffworks (Member # 1014) on :
Serious, huh...?
I'd like to see some TOS Era and TOS Movie Era ship designs. Something like the Federation and Klingon fleets that were about to attack each other in "Errand of Mercy". I realize it sorta goes against the TOS standard to show that sort of space combat, as realistically, if you've got weapons that are good out to thousands of kilometers, you don't want to be w/in spitting distance of the enemy, but it would look kewel. Or at least show the Fed or Klingon Fleets, sorta like some of the images at Mateen Greenway's site.
For the other ships, maybe some scenes using mostly TOS Movie Era ships relating to The Tomed Incident, which occured in the 2310's. Some Connies, Miranda's and maybe a Constellation class with an Excelsior as the flag ship taking on some brand-spankin'-new-for-the calendar Romulan ships.
I'd also like to see some civilian ships from various Era's. Would also be kind of kewel to see some bustling stabases, as was already mentioned. However, I'd like to see more civilian type stuff.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Amazon is apparently shipping the 2004 SofL calendar. Their site still has the old picture, but Barnes and Noble has a new one. Anyone bought it yet? Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Oooooo....purdy. I'm ordering now....
I hope they have a nice Enterprise B pic.
Enterprise C would rock too....mabye in combat with the Romulans over Nerandra III. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Cool new rendering of the TOS E and K-7
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
I've had it pre-ordered from Amazon for quite a while. They indicate it has already been released, but apparently their supply has always been low, so they need to have it (special) ordered from another warehouse before they can ship it to me. I still don't have it yet and I haven't seen it anywhere else. I wonder what's really going on here for it to take so long to actually be received by purchasers. They've been big sellers in the past but I've always seen copies available.
Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :
I was in Halifax, NS for a sci-fi con on the weekend and a local shop had two there. If it hadn't been $20 I'd have picked one up. The cover is as it was shown earlier in the thread with the Starfleet ships facing off with the Klingons.
I should've taken more care to remember the various shots inside but there's a couple of NX-01, one of which is an under construction shot in the drydock. Another features two Constitution refits passing one another in an asteroid field.
I wish I could remember more of them, but it did look like a good calendar. I'll ask for it for my birthday. I definitely want it. By comparison, I think it's better than this years SOTL calendar.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
That "new" K7 and Enterprise - is infact the model work from "Trials and Tribblations"
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Where did Mojo go, anyway? When's the last time he was here?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
A while. Why doesn't he come back and be more active with the board? It's like he used us and left us.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
Sounds like seperation anxiety...
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I believe Mojo's pretty much moved on from UF and the calendars. Last I heard, he was working on several projects... Trust me, should he ever find a project where the fans can be involved, he'll come here first.
Mark
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Goddammit, it's a crime that all that work was done, and we were continually teased with the possibility (they even advertised it in the '01 or '02 calendar!), and now we can't even see whatever preliminary work was done on it!
And all we can do is keep buying whatever they deign to offer, in the hopes that one day they'll decide to give us something we really want. Because if we STOP buying their stuff, then they'll end up cutting out the entire line altogether.
(I know, I know; we Treknologists are only a small fraction of the actual market... it still annoys me to no end! )
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Yay for big companies!
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Mark, are you saying that Mojo wasn't involved in the 2003 calendar?
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
He was in charge of the 2003 calendar!
Mark
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
"It's like he used us and left us."
OMG I feel so violated!!!!
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
I have the 2004 Calendar.
They screwed up and left George Takei's birthday off.
It's a bit NX-O1-heavy.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
As expected, since Eden FX people are supposedly in charge of this one. Can you give us a quick list of the images in the calendar, s'il te plait?
Mark
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
quote:Originally posted by Masao: Mark, are you saying that Mojo wasn't involved in the 2003 calendar?
Damn, I meant the 2004 calendar! (As an excuse, in Japan we are in Hesei year 15)
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Yup, they left off Takei's b-day. Anyway:
Cover: refit E-nil and unnamed/unlabeled Excelsior class ship face off 3 K'Tinga class Battlecruisers. (Surprisingly, the E-nil's impulse engines aren't lit)
January: An NX class ship under construction at a drydock facility. The starboard nacelle is about to be attached as is the port nacelle pylon. The port nacelle is in the background arriving, yet it doesn't look like it's being towed anywhere. It's just floating there. Hull plating on parts of the saucer are missing as yard engineers are seen working on the ship.
February: refit E-nil and refit Lexington NCC-1709 are seen meeting each other in an asteroid field. Agian the E-nil's impulse engines are not lit.
March: E-nil and damaged unnamed/unlabeled pre-refit Connie class ship (presumably Constellation NCC-1017) attacking Doomsday Machine. Phaser beam coming from the Constellation.
April: Voyager and Delta Flyer next to the moon. Delta Flyer facing Voyager though. Voyager clearly a drawing as name is smeared next to forward docking port. The Flyer does appear to be CGI.
May: refit E-nil in V'Ger with the bridge to the actual Voyager 6 probe. CGI Kirk, Spock, Ilia probe, Decker, and McCoy on saucer. Good recreation of scene if not actual footage used in the movie.
June: Damaged Enterprise NX-01 in the Romulan minefield. The mines are visible as are the 2 Birds-of Prey. Not an actual scene from the episode.
Center: Close-up of three Starfleet personnel in spacesuits on the Enterprise NX-01 saucer near the deflector dish. Inspection pod with what appears to be Archer is nearby.
July: Voyager flying-by near the surface of a large body of water. Lightening streaks in background.
August: A shuttlepod approaching the Enterprise NX-01. Close-up of the underside of the Enterprise.
September: The Enterprise NCC-1701-E at Romulus. It's the Nemesis CGI model with the weapons additions. Not an actual scene from the movie.
October: Enterprise NX-01 faceoff with 2 Vulcan ships (I forget the class name) and 3 alien ships (I don't think we've seen these before, but I could be wrong) in orbit of unknown planet.
November: Enterprise NCC-1701-D and unknown/unlabeled Excelsior class ship flyby in Earth orbit. Double-mushroom type spacedock in near background. Mars also in background. The E-D is clearly a drawing as the registry number is off-center on the ventral side of the saucer. Also upon close inspection, an escape pod is also not drawn on.
December: E-nil meets the Botany Bay. Not a scene from the episode.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Thanks for the list!
Nothing from DS9 - and more importantly, nothing "unseen". That is to say, nothing not including ships or CG models of the main ships in the franchise (like the shot of random BoPs, or a Miranda burning up in the atmosphere). It's that variation and expansion of the Trek universe that I buy these things for in the first place. Grumble.
I want Mojo back.
Mark
PS - The October shot sounds like one of the Andorian episodes from last year..?
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Thumbnails of the calendar pages have been posted at TrekBBS Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Agreed - I want Mojo and his silky shirts back!
Mark can you let him know!?!
Can you also pass on the idea about him doing a wall poster i.e. a cool scene a la sotl - but bigger - more room to do stuff. Beauty shots everything - to put on the wall. There haven't been any Trek posters in over a decade!! (I'm not talking pull-outs people).
I'd buy it in ONE SECOND and it'd go STRAIGHT ON MY WALL!
Andrew
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Those pictures don't look to bad!! Darren Dochterman's pics are the best.
Doug Drexler's pic of the space dock and the Gal and Excelsior - look like something I could piece together in Photoshop. Why is Mars so close?
His Voyager looks like a cut and paste too.
Bonchune's Refits in an Asteroid field is a bit... boring.
E-E - v. boring.
The three best are Voyager over the Water, The Botany Bay - the E-Nil looks great and the attack on the Planet Killer.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
That original CGI of the Doomsday Machine would almost make the whole calendar worth getting! Dang, that looks sweet!
True, the range and originality isn't what it used to be (dammit, we need Mojo back!), but the effects still look pretty darn good... at least in the thumbnails. I can still use some wall artwork... at least, to supplement the stuff I've already got, including a Starfleet Museum "original" poster...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I like this one a HELL of a lot better than the artsy shots of last years calander.
The E-nil with Botany Bay is my favorite because the E-nil actually has some subtle azec patterns!
Sweeet.
I really like the Enterprise E shot (as a modeler it's great refrence) but it's not very imaginative. I shot of her being towed back to spacedock with half a saucer by a new fed ship would have been more to my liking. Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Let's have some scans to see what people are missing...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
The calander's 20 plus inches across. My scanner (at work, no less) is not.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
I just received my calendar. I'm a bit disappointed, since the images don't look much better than what you can see at Scifi Meshes. Some of them have a posed CGI composition-look about them rather than looking like still frames from the show or real-life photos. Maybe it's because the lighting is off, with the backgrounds not matching the foregrounds? A few have Poser people that look bad. (Also, too much NX-01)
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
The only thing I don't like is the complete omission of anything from Deep Space Nine!!!! fucking VOYAGER has two pics that look just like all the other Voyager calander art and the NX-01 facing down the Andorians and Vulcans looks like a screenshot that was rendered over. Even the angle is the same.
A nice shot of the DS9 facing off the Klingons or Dominion just prior to the battle would have been nice....(sigh!)
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: A nice shot of the DS9 facing off the Klingons or Dominion just prior to the battle would have been nice....(sigh!)
Not if it is as bad as Masao says... then lets be thankful there was no DS9 connection!
I still think Mojo should do a big wall poster of DS9 art.
Andrew
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: The calander's 20 plus inches across. My scanner (at work, no less) is not.
scan part of the pics...
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Yeesh, folks - as crappy as the art may be (and I'm sure there has to be some redeeming features), I'd think the thumbnails would be sufficient...
Mark
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
The artwork is NOT crappy in any way. Some pics are more inspired and have better composition than others though.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
I'm not saying that the work is "crappy" exactly, but I'm not extremely impressed. The images obviously settle for a CGI form of reality without looking like they exist in the real world. For example: 1. A shot of V'ger's cobblestone walkway to the refit Ent has these Poser (?) figures (representing the Big three, Decker, and Ilia), with tiny heads and overly tall bodies) 2. The centerfold shot of the NX-01 crew standing on the hull again has fake-looking and strangley posed Poser figures. 3. Two pics with NX-01 (with the Romulans and with the ring ships) have stagy-looking compositions in which everything is perfectly placed to not overlap each other. A 2-D composition only. 4. The textures on the big "Canada arm" for NX-01 in drydock is supposed to be some sort of insulation sheath but looks likes like a standard rendered texture. 5. The shot of the Doomsday Machine uses this same texture. This pic also has a strong yellow light coming from the maw that nonsensically bathes the port side fo Constellation.
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
I feel i have to jump in and speak up for all the CGI artists on this board and elsewhere, the pictures are very realistic, for a given value of 'real'. None of the stuff depicted in the shots is real, it's all pure conjecture and imagination. Since we are human however we are programmed to be very, very good at spotting and recognising other humans, so those tend to be the flaws that leap out at us in CGI pictures. The CG in the shows get away with it by adding movement, either animated or motion captured, which helps to sell the 'humanity' of the character being protrayed, but that's not an option here. The only thing they could do would be to composite in real humans in suits that were photographed and lit for the occasion, and I guarantee that it would cost more for one such shot than it cost to produce the entire calander.
Please also bare in mind that it's still art; the composition, lighting, texturing and all the other elements were created and posed by a person with an aesthetic vision which may differ radically from your own. Although many people see CGI as making 'realistic' scenes or pictures, the individual CG artist is adding a lot of themselves to the piece. The software is rarely capable of making a scene look real without a lot of tweaking and direction from the artist. If the scene with the planet-killer was lit totally realistically, you'd see practically nothing.
Having said that I have to agree that some of the shots are a little disappointing in both content and execution. When i saw the E-nil with the Botany Bay my hackles instantly went up, it looks awfully like my mesh of the BB in that thumbnail. I'd need to see it closer to check if it's a rehash or not, although I'd assume they wouldn't be so crass as to nick a publically available mesh and not give credit. Or am i just flattering myself? Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Axeman 3D: Since we are human however we are programmed to be very, very good at spotting and recognising other humans,
Speak for yourself fleshbag!
Posted by TheF0rce (Member # 533) on :
quote:Originally posted by Axeman 3D: If the scene with the planet-killer was lit totally realistically, you'd see practically nothing.
Still it could have been a little darker and less colorful...like the BB pic.
For small thumbnails, check this thread everyone who has not/will not get the calender but interested in seeing what the hoohah is about.
Having checked out the scans, I gotta say two the majority of the images come across as too busy and not having a clear focus. For instance, the planet killer and the two starships aren't enough...there has to be planet rubble as well as sparks coming off the Constellation. Voyager and the Flyer AND a planet AND a nebula. NX-01 and two Vulcan ships, AND...
Less is more.
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
yeah, a couple of those images are a little too busy for my liking as well, particularly the one with all the crap in orbit around the NX-01. When you have a large format to fill however the tendency is to cram in as much interesting stuff as you think you can get away with, and if their models are anything like mine then they dont bare up to really close examination. Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
quote:Originally posted by Axeman 3D: yeah, a couple of those images are a little too busy for my liking as well, particularly the one with all the crap in orbit around the NX-01. When you have a large format to fill however the tendency is to cram in as much interesting stuff as you think you can get away with, and if their models are anything like mine then they dont bare up to really close examination.
Just out of curiosity, how many polys or vertexes do you have in a typical model?
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
NX-01 is 500,000 polygons.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I never put vertexes in my models. Never. It's a matter of principle.
Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: I never put vertexes in my models. Never. It's a matter of principle.
Then what do you call the points on your polys?
Posted by Capped in Mic (Member # 709) on :
um... vertices Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
quote:Originally posted by Capped in Mic: um... vertices
Oh yeah. I gave up 3D modeling in 1993 and my terminology clearly needs a shot from the ol oil can.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I use no vertices either! It's just not done! I use no polys and if I did, they'd cetainly not have vertices!
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Voxels, then? B)
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
Depends on the model, a pretty detailed small fighter can weigh in at anywhere between 60,000 and 110,000 polygons with image maps weighing it at around 64 meg. I did a little dalek shuttle once that came in at 120,000 and no image maps, the surface being covered in tons of raised heiroglyphics.
Posted by Mojo (Member # 536) on :
Hey guys
I saw the calendar today for the first time and I immediately thought of all of you! I figured it was about time I came in for a visit and said hi.
You're probably wondering what I think... and, for obvious reasons, I will keep a detailed opinion to myself. Clearly a lot of hard work went into this calendar and just about all the folks who created the imagery are my friends, so kudos to them for keeping the series alive.
I quite like Sean Scott's image of the NX-01 in drydock. The composition and use of wide angle lens is very bold. It's definately my fave.
I agree with many of the comments here that there could be more focus, more of a theme in the images. In the previous calendars, I would decide on a theme and sketch out most of the shots in advance for this very reason.
This time around, the artists were pretty much asked to just come up with something neat on their own. Since there was no single creative filter on the project, each month is pretty much an individual artistic vision.
The difference is apples and oranges, of course!
The heavy slant towards Enterprise is probably because most of the artists in the calendar are working on the show, so those are the models they have handy.
I'm flattered that you guys would like me to do some sort of DS9 wall poster. If I get some free time in the future I'd love to. I'll let you know! Perhaps The Communicator is interested in some art...
As for what I've been up to, until recently I was supervising the CG for the new Trek ride, "Borg Encounter," coming soon to a Las Vegas near you.
During the last few months I have been busy on non-Trek related projects. Well, one of them is sort of Trek related, but you'll just have to wait and see :-)
Hope you're all well, it's nice to see I am still remembered!
Mojo
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Kickass! Mojo, you still kick ass!
Mark
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cartman: Voxels, then? B)
None of my models use Voxels, Polygons, no image maps....none o' that fancy stuff.
....although some of my models do use geometric shapes.
I'm amazed no ones gotten the nature of my models yet! I'd have thought Stephen or Andrew would have said something by now.....
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Well I am busy writing my thesis - and no, it's not on Trek
Jason - you do PHYSICAL MODELS! (of the starship variety)
MOJO!! Yeahhhhh! Woo - wb!!
If you do a wall poster - that would be absolutely fantastic - I salivate at the idea and would be first in line to buy it. There have NEVER been any good (or just any) DS9 posters. Think of the detail you could have on a poster people!?! Drool!
Oh and Mojo... you mentioned Communicator... I like my posters to be 'non-creased' I'd frame it, but it on a backing board and put it on my wall. With your signature would be a bonus!
Oh I know it'd be cool.
Thanks for dropping bye Mr. Mo.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
I have to agree, a DS9 poster would be great.
And nice to know you are still around occasionally, Mojo. I just saw you the other day while rewatching the Star Trek - The Motion Picture Bonus DVD. Great work on that Director's Edition! Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
quote:Originally posted by Austin Powers: I just saw you the other day while rewatching the Star Trek - The Motion Picture Bonus DVD. Great work on that Director's Edition!
Speaking of which, Mojo, who was responsible for the Golden Gate Bridge shots in that?
Posted by Mojo (Member # 536) on :
The GG Bridge shots were done by myself and a very talented guy named Bob Quinn.
As far as the poster goes, what I could do is upload a hi-res image to Ofoto.com. If I share it in a guest area, anyone can order any size print they like and have it shipped to them. Excellent quality and as large as 20x30, I think. This has worked well in the past and the prices are reasonable.
In fact, if any of you like, I can upload the magazine covers I did for ST: The Magazine. I created horizontal versions of them for a convention charity auction once. I think I've got the WOK and ST III shots around somewhere...
Mojo
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Good to see you after a year, Mojo! Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Upload them images! A nice Ds9 poster would rock!
Posted by Mojo (Member # 536) on :
If you'd like access to my shared folder at Ofoto.com, provide an email address and I will send an invitation.
At that point you can pick images to have posters (or prints) made of. The quality is excellent and the prices very reasonable. They will be suitable for framing if you so choose.
Posted by Mojo (Member # 536) on :
Several of you have requested access to the Ofoto folder.
VERY IMPORTANT: If you order prints, make sure you DESELECT the "zoom & trim" option!
Posted by Mojo (Member # 536) on :
Hello, is this thing on? Remember everyone, you have to send me your EMAIL address! Most of the requests I have gotten to share the Ofoto album have not included this :-)
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
quote:The GG Bridge shots were done by myself and a very talented guy named Bob Quinn.
Jolly good! Then perhaps you can help me with the geography of San Francisco. I've been scratching my head over this one for ages and I can't work out where anything is supposed to be.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Keep in mind, guys, this isn't really my portfolio. It's just a few hi-res images that you can order prints of. People expressed interest so I made these available...
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Yes, but many of us are also college-age (or twentysomething) guys seriously in need of posters to decorate our rooms. And quality Trek-related artwork is hard to come by. Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Thanks for the access, Mojo.
By the way, have you considered having a site where your porfolio can be seen?
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
BTW - I haven't visited the pictures yet - of course... but this is a great start... what I'd love to see would be a new composition made especially for a poster that is a Deep Space Nine poster. There were NEVER any posters for DS9.
OK - 2 - the generic 'station' pic that is seen on every bit of promo material around including the Companion to DS9. And a really bad poster of the cast in a beige-coloured OPS BEFORE Emissary.
I'd love to see the fantastic things we could only imagine in 1993 in poster form... i.e. some sort of 'unseen frontier' *cough* involving an aspect of DS9 or the Defiant or both or Cardassian ships or Dominion ships or Klingon ships or even planet scapes... Bajor? Cardassia Prime? etc etc. something new!! Would be absolutley fantastic.
Who used to deal with the posters back in 1991-1993? Was it Simon and Schuster still?
I'd love to see them.
Posted by Mojo (Member # 536) on :
The only difficulty with doing a DS9 poster is it really can't have the station in it - there is no CG model. At least not a good one, anyway...
Defiant and other ships we can do... it's just a matter of when I'll have the time to do an image that I'm not getting paid for :-)
Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reverend:
quote:The GG Bridge shots were done by myself and a very talented guy named Bob Quinn.
Jolly good! Then perhaps you can help me with the geography of San Francisco. I've been scratching my head over this one for ages and I can't work out where anything is supposed to be.
See this posting for some help with that!
Posted by Galen (Member # 72) on :
I would like to be added to the invite. My address is [email protected] Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
So what pic is everyone's fave? (They are all very good Mojo).
I think I like the Enterprise-Nil.
[ November 10, 2003, 03:25 AM: Message edited by: AndrewR ]
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
The only ones I even like are the ones of Voyager flying over the ocean and the Enterprise rendezvousing with the Botany Bay.
--Jonah
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
To what are you referring to Andrew? Mojo's pics from his shared folder at Ofoto? Or the pics from the calendar?
Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: So what pic is everyone's fave? (They are all very good Mojo).
I think I like the Enterprise-Nil.
E-Nil.
Posted by Mojo (Member # 536) on :
Thanks for the comments, everyone. I personally like the WOK image, but the E-nill is a nice one, too. Note that it is supposed to be an oribital shot from "Shore Leave."
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dat: To what are you referring to Andrew? Mojo's pics from his shared folder at Ofoto? Or the pics from the calendar?
Ofoto.
Posted by MrNeutron (Member # 524) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mojo: Thanks for the comments, everyone. I personally like the WOK image, but the E-nill is a nice one, too. Note that it is supposed to be an oribital shot from "Shore Leave."
That's a nice shot, but the Reliant just seems too damned close to the Enterprise. It robs the composition of depth.
Posted by Mojo (Member # 536) on :
Well, if you watch the movie those ships got REALLY close to one another! That's part of what makes the sequence so dynamic. Of course, I'm just using that as an excuse for wanting to have both ships as big as possible in the shot, they're both nice models :-)
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
Darnit, I forgot to post my e-mail address. [email protected] If you please. Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
I can't resist. Can I please have an invite, Mojo?
I thought I'd like it but can I just say... DISSAPPOINTED!!
Mojo, your work/direction was by far superior.
Most pictures look cartoonish in the 2004 calendar.
Bonchune needs to be a little more careful with his registry numbers... I was waiting for a 1701 to crop up on the Lexington - I found it - inside edge of port nacelle. tsk.
Wasn't inspired by this calendar AT ALL.
What a shame.
Andrew
Posted by Sarvek (Member # 910) on :
I recently purchased the SOTL Calendar and I was completely impressed. I really like the artwork and some of it is done by famous artists like Doug Drexler. I did not know that he did artwork. It was worth every penny and I was really impressed. It does not look like cartoon work, it looks like good quality artwork that I would want to frame and display for all to see. Good job guys.
Cheers,
Sarvek Posted by Pwesty (Member # 1035) on :
I my be jhonny come late but I'd like an invitation too,I can't resist. Can I please have an invite, Mojo?
Please Please!!!
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
Hey Mojo. We met briefly at Convergence 2002 in Minnesoda. I asked you about my portfolio and you told me to send tapes instead of CDs, and it paid off big time.
Im a graphic artist here in Orange County CA. I have access to a HP2800 oversize color printer (hellooooo 36x48..) and would love to print some of your stuff!!
What do you mean by tapes?? Like for a commodore 64!?!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Porn Tapes: they break the ice on interviews.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Comedy is easy!
Tapes as in video tapes, containing, one presumes, samples of 3D animation.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
I noticed on the shot of the Enterprise and Lexington, the one nacelle of the Lexington says NCC-1709 and the other says NCC-1701 Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
Well, I finally got a close look at this, since I got the calendar for Christmas. My thoughts:
January: Nice details. I like the built-in shuttlebays on the drydock walls -- it makes things look more realistic.
February: Another Hoth-type asteroid field, but it's still not bad. Aside from The359's nit, of course.
March: Now THIS is what makes CGI of Trek, especially TOS, such a great possibility. The recreation of the Doomsday Machine is awesome. The sparklies coming from the Constellation looks kinda strange, but it's still pretty cool.
April: The detail on their Voyager is amazing!
May: The human-type figures look particularly artificial, considering the possible detail CGI can handle. But the background looks great.
July: The picture is nice, but I really wish they'd put in a LITTLE bit more color...
October: Great pictures of the alien ENT-era ships. Can someone PLEASE find some good ortho views?
November: Why didn't they put a registry number on the Excelsior model? Nice shot of the Utopia Planitia stations.
December: Awesome detail on Khan's ship!
Overall, I wish they'd offered a little bit more variety in the selection (as they offered in previous years) -- but we've gone over that ground before.
Overall, I think they've done a pretty good job.......
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
So what thoughts do you have on June, August, and September?
Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: What do you mean by tapes?? Like for a commodore 64!?!
VHS/DVD video of my works in a movie with commentary and such, instead of a CD full of files.
Although now I use an interactive disc with a Flash menu of sorts.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Proteus:
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: What do you mean by tapes?? Like for a commodore 64!?!
VHS/DVD video of my works in a movie with commentary and such, instead of a CD full of files.
Although now I use an interactive disc with a Flash menu of sorts.
Oh of course - ok thanks. I guess that would mean you'd have to have a video capture card of somesort that had output to vcr? I suppose you could create a DVD - but you'd need a DVD burner.
quote:I noticed on the shot of the Enterprise and Lexington, the one nacelle of the Lexington says NCC-1709 and the other says NCC-1701
Yes, I mentioned that
And also...
yes the calendar is NICE - but has anyone noticed that cartoony 'finish' or 'filter' that they've included over each picture?? No crisp lines etc. The pic of the Ent, the Vulcans and the Andorians looks essentially like a cap - but has a crayon/comic feeling to the final picture - not like the episode... it makes the pictures/ships/scenes less realistic.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
I honestly think the entire calendar was made to feel as if the images were painted on a canvas, instead of like photographs. Although some of them certainly do have the detail like a photograph.
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
How does one actually go about hanging this calendar on their wall?
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
One doesn't, for it ruins the calender. At least that's my opinion.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
I'm not a fan of this calendar, for reasons already stated.
I can understand why there's so much NX-01 images, it was the easist to do, however more variety would be better. Afterall, when it's called "Ships of the Line" I expect different ships for each month. Instead with 5 months of Enterprise it might as well be called an Enterprise calendar. I want more ships, the Ambassador, Miranda, or maybe even the Nebula-class for example.
The much requested DS9 image would be nice, maybe with a runabout, Defiant, and workbees. A Wolf 359 battle scene prehaps. Just a couple things I'd like to see. I love seeing the Enterprise-D, it's always been a favorite ship of mine instead of the trend towards tiny ships. That and it reminds me of my childhood watching TNG.
Posted by jesus X (Member # 1201) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mojo: If you'd like access to my shared folder at Ofoto.com, provide an email address and I will send an invitation.
I'm rather late to the game, but I hope not too late! [email protected] Posted by WizArtist (Member # 1095) on :
Might as well jump on the bandwagon. Invite, please? [email protected]
B.J.
Posted by jesus X (Member # 1201) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hobbes: I want more ships, the Ambassador, Miranda, or maybe even the Nebula-class for example.
Oo, I'd love some Ambassador shots. That's always been one of my favorites. There is a decent Nebula shots in the 2001 calendar...
quote:I love seeing the Enterprise-D, it's always been a favorite ship of mine instead of the trend towards tiny ships. That and it reminds me of my childhood watching TNG.
The Ent-D is a truly beautiful creation. It's got gorgeous lines, long and graceful curves. It's a crime what they did to her in Generations...
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Will Riker and Deanna Troi should be dragged out into the middle of the street and shot in the back of their respective heads.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
That scofflaw Worf too, seeing as how it was a security breach that allowed the ship to be attacked in the first place.
Posted by jesus X (Member # 1201) on :
Has anyone seen Mojo around lately? I fear we'll never see our posters! Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
Yeah, I've been wondering what happened to Mojo myself -- I haven't received my invite and I enquired quite some time ago. I don't know if there's a limit to the amount of people he can allow in. Of course it may be that he's been busy or on holiday or something.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Maybe he is preparing "Unseen Frontier" for print - and all the rumours about its demise was just that, a rumour!?!
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said that Mojo wasn't doing it this year - which sucks. Who will be doing it this year?
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