Where we left off with September's "Pegasus": having rendezvoused with a second, surviving Battlestar, tensions between the two military crews quickly rise to a tension which snaps when Galactica's Tyrol & Helo kill a Pegasus officer in the course of preventing the rape of the Cylon prisoner, Sharon II. The episode ends with Adama scrambling his Vipers to attack Pegasus, and Pegasus' Vipers scrambling in response.
Resurrection Ship Pt. 1 opens as both ships' fighters close on each other. Galactica has a handful of old, obsolete Viper Mark IIs. Pegasus has squadrons of the new, top-of-the-line Mark VIIs. When both Adama and Cain refuse to give their pilots the go-ahead to fire, the Mark IIs get a sound thrashing by the much more manuverable Mark VIIs, whose pilots seem to enjoy playing chicken with their opponents. Thankfully, a little bit of deception on the part of Starbuck & Apollo defuses tensions -- "Can't we all ... be friendly?!" -- although, of course, neither Adama or Cain are quite willing to "forgive and forget."
I was actually reminded a bit of one of the last episodes of Deep Space Nine, where the Klingon Empire is all that stands between the Alpha Quadrant and the Dominion. The Klingon Chancellor, Gowron, more concerned with his own political future, is squandering the strained resources of the Empire, and it is Cmdr. Sisko who urges Worf to assassinate Gowron to preserve the future of the Quadrant. In an episode the prior season, Sisko wrestled with his inner-demons after being inadvertently involved in the assassination of a Romulan Senator -- an assassination which brough the Romulans into the war as an ally of the Federation. Over the course of a year I guess he recognized the benefits of assassination as a means to an end.
Similarly, I think most folks who've been watching BSG for the last year knew with the introduction of Admiral Cain that she would have to go. The fleet isn't big enough for both her and Adama, and over the course of the last two episodes we've seen enough to come to the unavoidable conclusion that she is absolutely bat-shit insane. She's executed her own officers, ordered gang-rapes, and abandoned defenseless civilians when they could not meet her needs. Her judgement took a one-way trip to the toilet, and her beating heart needs to take a one-way trip out an airlock.
Thankfully, both Roslin and Adama have come to the same conclusion by the end of "Resurrection Ship Pt. 1" ... Cain has to die. She's not interested in survival, she's interested in vengeance, and that will bring death to the 50,000 survivors of the fleet.
Of course, Cain isn't exactly cool with leaving Adama in command of Galactica -- she knows that although her own ship is more powerful, an armed conflict would leave Pegasus badly hurt.
Seriously, after the cliff-ending of the season break, I really didn't see how any ending could beat it -- turns out, having Cain plot Adama's assassination intercut with Adama planning Cain's works pretty well.
The episode doesn't move all that quickly at times -- time is spent reintroducing the main and supporting characters -- Dualla and Billy are not-so-noticeably absent, not because they're unimportant characters, but because there's just so much going on. I get the feeling the concluding episode of this chapter is going to be just as busy and frenetic.
I. Can't. Frakking. Wait.
Baseless Speculation for Next Episode:
*It's Gina who kills Cain (perhaps after she's already been relieved by Pegasus officers who are tired of her insanity). *Frisk is already plotting against Cain -- the Marines he handpicked are loyal to him, and won't act against Adama.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I sure wish they'd cut down on "frak." Ugh.
Also, the whole assassination plot? Sure, the thematic connection to Boomer's attempt on Adama is nice enough, but, I don't know. There was a discussion missing, I think. Roslin technically has the authority to remove Cain from her post, surely, or to officially give command of the entire military to Adama. Or perhaps the Quorum does, but in either case, the legal (and, I think, ethical) choice is clear. But, of course, Roslin has absolutely no ability to enforce such an order. But if Cain were to refuse orders from the president or the Quorum, then it would cease to be a question of what Adama thinks is right. I mean, he'd be under a legal obligation to remove her at that point.
Of course, the irony of Adama acting to defend the civilian government from military usurpation ought not to pass unnoted.
But, anyway, they set things up as this big grey mess, with no right choice, when it seems to me that Roslin could have easily staked out the moral high ground. At the very least, it might get them some support among the Pegasus crew.
What I think would be really interesting is both Starbuck and the Pegasus' first officer refusing to carry out their orders.
(I also wish Cain was a little less full-bore eeeevil.)
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Yeah, I agree. It'd be nice if they'd play her as an alternate Adama -- like a version of him we saw in the pilot, where it was only when he saw Dually and Billy talking that made him realize survival had to be the goal. If they'd written Cain as a very Adama-like figure who hadn't had the epiphany, sympathies would be torn and not everyone might support Adama.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Having said that, I liked the rapport between Cain and Starbuck.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Yeah, it was interesting seeing Starbuck when she's got the Fear-of-being-Smited.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Hmm? I meant how much they appear to have in common.
So what's the deal with the resurrection ship? OK, so it's around to catch any Cylon uploads, fair enough. And it's filled with clones. And so what? Shelly Godfrey aside, replenishing the number of replicants in the fleet has never come up in the plot. The most important ship in the galaxy? Destroying the basestars and the raiders feels like the larger victory.
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
I also think it's interesting that Starbuck sometimes submits to authority pretty easily, partly when it comes to things like literal missions of faith and now, Cain.
I was also very relieved when Resurrection Ship turned out to be what it was. From the glimpse in the previews, I was certain they were going to go with, "ship full of captured human survivors being used for hideous experiments" to typical cliche ends.
Also, I'm curious as to what the Cylons do for menial tasks now. Six hints at the older models still having their uses, but if the Cylons rebelled against the humans because of their status as second class beings, then how do they justify their same actions? Might be interesting thing for a Colonial to ask next time they see a Cylon.
EDIT: And I hope you will forgive me, Sol, for swapping bits of your gurgitated wit as my signature, but I've been meaning to change it for awhile now, and the ship-model thing is something I've been wondering about since "Hand of God."
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
What, Galactica doesn't have 3D printers? And didn't we go over that before?
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: So what's the deal with the resurrection ship? OK, so it's around to catch any Cylon uploads, fair enough. And it's filled with clones. And so what? Shelly Godfrey aside, replenishing the number of replicants in the fleet has never come up in the plot. The most important ship in the galaxy? Destroying the basestars and the raiders feels like the larger victory.
Now that you mention it, it is a very strange solution to the uploading problem. Haven't the Cylons ever heard of decentralization? What if there are hundred of these 'resurrection ships'? What if Basestars are capable of receiving uploads and rebuilding humanoid Cylons as well? In fact, didn't we see a whole series of Boomer-Cylons on a Basestar once?
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
The equipment may require faciltiies that won't fit on a basestar and that are hard to reproduce. They don't have infinite resources. The ship is important because it's, as far as we know, the only one around, and destroying it could destroy the Cylon's will to fight.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
The Resurrection looks to me like it's a gigantic flying antenna, set to receive the "signal" of the deceased Cylon's consciousness. So obviously the special importance of the ship is that it extends the range of the Cylon armada's reach... they don't have to send the signal all the way back to Caprica or whichever of the colonies is their main HQ. (It also means that Leoben Mk. II was faking his concern over being "executed". Surprise, surprise!)
Anyway, if there's one "resurrection ship", there can very easily be more of them. It's like that old political aphorism quoted in the movie Contact: "Why build just one, when you can have two at twice the price?" So while this attack will certainly be a major tactical victory for the Colonials, I somehow doubt that this will leave them home free.
That said, I was incredibly impressed by this episode. After all the problems of the infamous Trek two-parter let-downs, it's great to see a story that can continue building up the tension from the cliffhanger and continuing to surprise the audience. The best part, in my view, was Cain's decision to promote Kara and make her the Pegasus CAG. It's the kind of twist that you never see coming, but it makes perfect sense when you stop to think about it. I think that, barring the psycho factor, Kara is very similar to a young Cain. Which would also explain why Cain liked the gutsy move and that Kara "almost always" gets what she wants.
The little heart-to-heart between Helo and Tyrol in the brig was also pretty darn cool. It's good to see that Tyrol is starting to think of his situation from a more rational perspective -- i.e. thinking of Sharon more as a person and needing to forgive and move on.
I won't comment on the assassination aspect, other than the fact that Roslin came to the conclusion first is incredibly interesting, 'cause she's usually the one arguing for nonviolence and calm. But of course, considering the threat Cain poses, and Adama's mindset to adhere to the chain of authority, it makes sense that Roslin would be more likely to make that leap first.
More than that, I'm just not shocked anymore by Cain's insanity. It's just so over-the-top that I'd like to see some justification for her state of mind, and more so the fact that the crew is also going along with all this. Sure, Humans can be awful, brutal people, but what's the reasoning for everyone going along with this? Was it just the threatening of the civilian families and the shooting of her original XO? Was everyone (like the crew members who revealed the info about Thorne attacking Sharon, eagerly looking forward to their own opportunity) all on the same page, or is it a mob mentality kind of thing? I'd kinda hope it's the latter, because it would really suck if the Pegasus were supposed to be the only nutty ship in the fleet.
Also, it seems quite likely now, based on the story about the other civilian ships that the Pegasus found, that there might be other survivors out there, in small groups or even on their own, that might not have been found by the Cylons. It might be doubtful, that they survived this long without being hunted down, though, but you never know.
Regardless, I'm definitely looking forward to the conclusion. It'll definitely be a good one, methinks!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Maybe it's just me, but I haven't found that Cain came off as over-the-top. I think it might have something to do with the fact that all her craziest moments have been related second-hand. We have't actually seen her execute someone or strand civilians. So, that seems to cut down somewhat on the whole Caligula-factor to her character.
Also, I agree that this whole "destruction of the resurrection ship will be the biggest victory ever" thing doesn't make a lot of sense. How many Cylons have infiltrated the fleet? A dozen or so? And they've killed, what, two of them? Plus, once they've found and killed a Cylon, that model can't come back without being identified, anyway. So, they really haven't been having a problem at all with dead Cylons coming back.
At best, they can stop the information in the Cylons' brains from being transmitted back to the Cylon fleet. But, as Xena already demonstrated, they don't have to die and resurrect in order to do that.
And how will destroying the resurrection ship make the Cylons less eager to attack? We don't even know if the raiders are sentient, much less being resurrected. As far as we know, the resurrection ship is only applicable to humanoid Cylons.
Oh, and I also agree that it was very jarring to see Roslin immediately conclude that Cain must be murdered ASAP, without even considering a way to remove her from command in one piece.
Posted by ScottKey (Member # 1709) on :
Concerning the ship, it could be shaped like that because it's some giant antenna, but I find it interesting that it looks similar to the US Air Force Academy Chapel. Is this a coincidence that it looks similar to a church or do the cylons believe the Resurrection Ship and others like it are a House of God, so to speak? If so, how will they react to the humans defiling the House of God?
I also found it interesting that Roslin came to the conclusion to kill Caine before Adama did. I think that it's not her first choice in what to do, but it is the only one that can be done. Remember, she believes she'll be dying within the month, which will already cause a lot of turmoil in the government. If she can take care of a major problem by somehow getting rid of Caine before she dies, she can take the blame for the assassination to the grave and leave the rest of the government blame free and with one less major headache.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
We've already seen that Roslin is capable of cutting through the diplomacy and make a ruthless decision. Did she not effectively stab a friend in the back to install Baltar as vice president? She barely hesitated in ordering that cylon with the mind games to be thrown out an airlock and there was that whole bit about going toe to toe with Adama.
This may sound a little strange, but I was relieved to see that Adama acknowledged that what happened to Boomer was wrong. It's somehow comforting that they're starting to humanise the enemy. Big evil nasty unstoppable robots just aren't a very interesting adversary.
quote:Also, I'm curious as to what the Cylons do for menial tasks now. Six hints at the older models still having their uses, but if the Cylons rebelled against the humans because of their status as second class beings, then how do they justify their same actions? Might be interesting thing for a Colonial to ask next time they see a Cylon.
That reminds me of a thought I had a while back. It was triggered by the line "all this has happened before, all this will happen again." What if the human model cylon become so human that their mechanical inferiors rebel and start the whole thing all over again? Further to that, what if the Lords of Kobol were the original humans and the 13 tribes are the decendants of machines created by the lords?
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: Further to that, what if the Lords of Kobol were the original humans and the 13 tribes are the decendants of machines created by the lords?
That would be way cool. And quite twisted.
Posted by TheWoozle (Member # 929) on :
Couple points:
I find the cathederal aspect of the ship to be interesting within the whole 'God' element.. it kinda makes me think of the Celestial Switchboard in FREEJACK.
The Cylon War was only.. what, 40 years ago? A Cylon Civilization would take a while to form.. the new models would take time to develope and grow.. the shipyards would have to be built.. and a ship like the Ressurection Ship would take a while to build. If it wasn't for the Galactica (and Pegasus), the Ressurection ship would be parked by Caprica instead. I don't think they planned to chase a rag-tag fleet around the galaxy. I think that there's only one and it's not a warship.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I don't think there's any implication, in the episode, that the ship is the only way for every Cylon to reincarnate. Just the ones in the fleet, who are too far away to make use of the usual channels, whatever those might be. (Perhaps the Cylons went easy on those cities on Caprica out of concern for the Colonial broadband network.)
Another thought: does the resurrection ship (and doesn't Cain at one point refer to it simply as "the Resurrection"?) have every Cylon replicant design? Because if that's the case, careful examination of those reconaissance photos might unmask all of their infiltrators. Really, they ought to try and capture it, if they can.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
The additional recon photos and battle damage assessments should show decent images of the chambers. I was kind of surprised that they didn't send the Blackbird out for a second run to get those images.
Capturing it may not be a good idea either, look what a small group did on the BSG, let alone a ship like that fighting for the survival of their memory banks.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
quote:"We don't even know if the raiders are sentient, much less being resurrected."
I seem to remember Boomer MkI referring to the captured Raider as being like a horse. I know she didn't realize she was a Cylon yet, but her programming was beginning to bleed through. So I would guess that the Raiders wouldn't need to be resurrected, as it's not a big loss.
B.J.
Posted by Shakaar (Member # 1782) on :
I think the President came to a logical conclusion really, and she was powerless to take action such as handing the fleet over to Adama, she mentioned before that Cain wasn't returning any of her communications, so I think she knows if she were to show her hand and try and remove Cain by normal means, she'd be the next to go. And it was reported to her that the Pegasus had a civilian fleet that got it, and that Cain possibly ordered her XO put to death on the bridge.... Sometimes you need to just set forth a moral lesson, take the lady's call or you shall die.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
Cain made her disdain for Roz quite apparent when her and Adama first met and she said "the Secretary of Education? Is that the best you could do?" or something to that effect.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
If she were ordered to stand down I wonder how many of her crew would actually stand up for her. I think that will be her down fall next week.
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
But of course we all know that next week Cain will be killed by Gina. Naturally.
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
To my chagrin, intelligence gathering does not seem to be much of a priority or skill for the colonials. So I was glad to see them actually doing a little. But like Simon, I too wondered about the possiblilities of uncovering the identities of the remaining human Cylon models (as well as testing the veracity of the 12 models assumption). But then I remembered that it's a TV show and if we knew who all the Cylons were it just couldn't be as interesting (could it?) and so that won't happen. If the mission is a success (and to an alarming degree everyone seems to be assuming it will be) they will destroy the Resurrection Ship.
I found Tricia Helfer's (capably assisted by James Callis) performance as the tortured Six in the previous episode riveting. Less so here. I didn't really buy that she just wanted to die. Although, I suppose it did cement the whole Cylon spirituality thing and give us the name/purpose of the heretofore mystery ship. When she pounced on Baltar, I felt like we were getting somewhere. But then plot.
As before I do feel like we're really getting lopsided on the whole Cain/Pegasus is/are a bad-guy/s, therefore-ok-to-shoot thing (did Cain really need to kick the now-fed yet semi-catatonic Six). Again I do hope that possibly via some noble sacrifice (or perhaps more excitingly through some epiphanic change of heart) Cain et al will have an opportunity to redeem themselves soon. As appealing as a mideseason name change of the series to "Battlestars Galactica and Pegasus", and as much potential as that story holds for me, I'm afraid even Ron Moore isn't that cool.
Roslin's snap (albeit brutal) decision seemed completely in line with a character who has faced some crushing descisions (the non-FTL ships, Tom Zarek, Kobol, Leoban Mk2, military coup, etc.). Of course it helps to have Mary McDonnell to sell it. Amazing, her.
As for the Cain/Adama assassination-off: I was very impressed at the parallel structure of those scenes and am fast coming to the conclusion that this show is just incredible at cliff-hangers. I did find it curious that Cain's order was to "terminate Commander Adama's command", where Adama used the somewhat less formal "shoot her in the face."
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Well, Adama knows all too well that you can recover from a gunshot in the chest. I guess he didn't want to give Cain that chance.
B.J.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Adama isn't hiding behind euphemisms and the gloss of military officialness they give, is the real importance there, I'd say. He's under no impression that his order is right, merely that it is necessary. (Or at least he has come to believe it is necessary.)
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
quote:Cain's order was to "terminate Commander Adama's command"
Starting with Adama. Everyone's left that part out. Obviously Cain feels it will be necessary to kill other Galactica personnel.
Adama, on the other hand, is specifically targeting one person, and using his trained assassin/sniper to do the job.
I regret just a bit the way the situation has played out. Proper channels and proceedures were not followed in the decision to remove Cain froom her command. At the very least an inquiry board should be formed to investigate the accusations leveled against her from stripping/abandoning civilians and ordering the massacre of other civilians to allowing and condoning the rape of a prisoner.
Further, Cain has willfully shown disregard for the duely elected President of the Colonies. She has failed to recognize her "Commander in Chief."
And this is what led to Roslyn's decision, along with her rapidly advancing cancer. Cain would never have consented to a trial. Cain would never have yielded to Roslyn's authority. Roslyn didn't have time to drag it out before she dies.
So she "cut through the crap" and came to the only conclusion that would work. Then she had to talk Adama into it.
Aside: The wipe board on Colonial One had the same survivor number displayed in the opening credits. Nice touch to continuity.
It would have been nice to see a season (or even the rest of the series) feature BOTH Battlestars. Of course, that could never happen, even from a budget standpoint.
Still would have been cool.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
They don't have time for an inquiry board. Cain is crazy and better-armed.
One thing I saw someone bring up elsewhere: As of "Kobol's Last Gleaming" Roslin had her own non-military security team, and Cain insisted that Adama and herself go alone to Colonial One. So why not detain the admiral after the meeting? Sure, it might be illegal and likely to antagonize the Pegasus crew, but so is an assassination, and surely to greater degrees.
Speaking of antagonists, what is Starbuck supposed to do after she kills Cain? Adama seems to have modeled the operation on his own brush with death; has he forgotten what became of his would-be assassin?
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
Something I wanted to bring out earlier but forgot...
In either the Mini or early in the first season Adama and Roslin (I keep thinking Roselyn...) were discussing who should be in charge and who should protect the fleet.
Adama was adamant (pun!) that there should be a civilian police force. His reasoning was that the military is responsible for protecting civilians from enemies. Police are responsible for maintaining order among the civilians. If/when the military is placed in the role of police, then the civilians become the enemy.
Adama didn't want that. It appears, though, that Cain is more than willing to follow that line of thinking.
No, they don't have time for a board. Nor would Cain submit.
I've wondered about that with Starbuck too. She's liable to be shot in response to attacking Cain. Of course, Boomer got away with it initially.
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
I suppose Adama may just be ignoring what will have to happen after, crossing that bridge when they come to it. He's already forcing himself to do something which goes against his constitution. If that's the case, I have no problem with when it plays out and somebody saying, "Well, now what do we do?" and Adama shrugging.
I don't have a problem with the Colonials being unable to determine any of the other Cylon models that might have been on the Ressurection ship. I do have a problem with the fact that none of them mentioned why they couldn't or even seemed to have the thought occur to them.
Also, even though Adama had that big speech about the military protecting the civilians and police and whatever, we have yet to see any instance of civilian police. And especially considering that the likelyhood of there being a police ship in the RTF is virtually nil, how does that setup work?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Well, where did Roslin's security team come from? They weren't around prior to the attack, or at least were never seen. We can only presume they were recruited from the general public. The same would hold true for a police force, I'd think. The president or the Quorum select someone to run a reconstituted Colonial department of justice, and they go from there.
I wish we saw more day in the life stuff from the rest of the fleet.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I've found myself pondering about Cain's sexuality. I don't think it's just because she's a woman in a position of power, there seems to be more to it that that, unless it's just my imagination. She's shown disdain for men and women alike, but also - crucially - for the institution of family. But when she goes on about Gina, it seems there's a lot of hatred there. I mean, gosh, the very effrontery, a Cylon in her crew, and eating their food as well! I wonder if that's all Gina's been munching on, if you catch my drift. And then to do one of those handy CSI-zoom-in-and-enhance things and see the Resurrection Ship is full of more Ginas (/Shellies/Sixes). . . It would explain a lot about her psychology, if she found out her girlfriend was a Cylon. The Six model does seem intended for seduction, and a fleet commander would be a tasty prize. . . We've never found out how they exposed Gina, have we?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Weird, and yet I did read someone on Usenet report that they thought the Starbuck promotion scene was going to end in a kiss. I don't see it, myself, and I'd be worried about the symbology, were that the case. I mean, what with DS9 employing "lesbian" as convenient signifier for evil and twisted. Like, not only is Cain a rebel against the laws of man, but God's as well! That sort of thing. Not that I don't have confidence in the show to tread murky waters. (Or that I think DS9 was intending such a message.)
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Also, even though Adama had that big speech about the military protecting the civilians and police and whatever, we have yet to see any instance of civilian police."
Well, why should we have? How often do we actually see what's going on on the civilian ships? Plus, whatever force they may be assembling is probably still training. We may be halfway through the second season, but it hasn't been a year-and-a-half yet in their time. How long have the events of the show lasted so far? A few months, maybe?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Didn't someone say "six months" during this episode?
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
I don't think the intention is to suggest that lesbian = evil + insane + twisted. In fact more than likely they're downplaying any suggestions to avoid any such controversy.
But it's obvious that Cain is more than just ruthless, she's loopy. But she can't just be loopy for the sake of being loopy - Moore wouldn't write it as such, and Forbes wouldn't play her as such - there has to be a reason for her madness.
How long has it been since, the end of the previous Cylon war, again? Because unless she's just aged a whole lot better than Adama, there's a chance that Cain never even saw proper combat against Cylons before the start of the current war. In other words she's a peacetime soldier, and has risen to high command not through any particular combat ability. That could be significant as well. I'm not ruling out any possibility of her having some privileged status within Colonial society that we don't know about, after all we know that being married to the right person can get a demobbed soldier back on the active duty list - but in a peacetime Colonial fleet would knowing the right people or having the right family help you get promotions? Probably. So (to summarise) Cain's madness may (partly) stem from being way out of her depth.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I believe the Cylon war was 40 years ago.
Forbes is 39, Olmos is 59. I don't think they've mentioned Adama's age, but 59 just about works, though in the U.S. today the average age for enlisted pilots is 29, and for officers 35, according to the U.S. Air Force. (IMDb doesn't have a birthdate for the actor who plays Tigh.)
Looking at it again, however, reveals that that page isn't talking about just pilots, but the average age for the whole service. So, I don't know.
Posted by HerbShrump (Member # 1230) on :
How long did the Cylon war last?
DS-9 also displayed a lesbian situation in a non-evil/psycho way between Jadzia and Lenara Kahn. I got the impression from the Mirror Mirror Kira (and Ezri) that these were people who blatantly gave in to their own lusts and desires as if it was air or water.
Plus, it was the ratings/shock value/titilation of the whole girls kissing girls for the viewers sake.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I may be misremembering (it's been a while since I last saw the mini-series) but I think they (Mr Public Relations Cylon) mentioned that Galactica was built during the early days of the Cylon war and that it was to be decommissioned on it's 75th anniversery.
So if indeed it ended 40 years ago then would that mean that the war lasted some 35 odd years.
I notice that unlike the old series, they're not playing up Cain's status as a Legend, so I tend to agree that this Cain is inexperianced and way out of her depth. That alone could explain why she's lost perspective. If you think about it, anoyone who makes Admiral at such a young age probably got there through intellegence, proficiency in games & theory and a lot of burning ambition. As for combat experiance, the worst she's probably faced are the likes of Zarak's terrorist/freedom fighter dissidents and the odd criminal (pirates, smugglers, hijackers).
As for the supposed lesbian angle, I see it as a possibility, but not a necessary element. As has been mentioned already it's not a good idea to paint every woman in power as a dyke. Ignoring political correctness, it dose the idea of a strong woman something of a diservice to say that they're probably not straight. To me a nastier way to create a personal link between Cain & Six would be if her XO (the one she supposedly shot) was her lover and that he cheated on her with Six, who'd obviously be (pardon the crude pun) pumping him for intel. It'd account for her particular bitterness towards six, her willingless to let the crew use her for sport and give her an alterior and very personal reason for pluging her First Officer between the eyes...but that's just me.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :