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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: [QB] Okay, I've seen it. It's very good. Something that could not have been done if it followed a TV-sized philosophy of the 60s with a larger franchise that was essentially stuck in the 80s. Starting from zero is what is needed if we're to see future Trek, and this is what can do it. But what happens to the old universe? I've largely avoided the spoiler threads, so forgive me if the nomenclature has come up already. Let's call the Star Trek universe up to this point "Universe-1". The new film explicitly states that they're in a divergent, alternate reality that started when Nero popped through from the future and destroyed the USS Kelvin. Thus, everything from Universe 1 still happened and will continue after 2387, while this second universe (which I'll call "Universe-A" for fun) shares everything that happened to that point and is on its own afterwards. So, stuff of note that happened in both universes that may cause a problem: - Various temporal incursions by the Enterprise in the 1960s - An older, heavier crew of a destroyed USS Enterprise steals some whales in 1986 - Some self-righteous woman and her lost children muck up the LA skyline and surrounding desert in 1995 - Khan apparently controlled half the planet or something like that in 1995 and is currently floating around in suspended animation somewhere - A Borg sphere crashed in the southern polar region of Earth in 2063 and no one noticed - Pretty much everything in "Enterprise" ...And a bunch of other stuff from Universe-1 that isn't worth bringing up. This means that a considerable amount of history in Universe-A is a reult of stuff originating in Universe-1. Most of it will likely never be touched upon as Universe-1 stories have largely cleaned up after themselves, but it's interesting to think that anyone doing pre-2258 time travel in Universe-A will be interacting in history that was influenced by alternate versions of themselves. This is to say nothing of what has happened in the post-TNG Universe-1 that seems to have been dismissed. It has nothing to do with Universe-A anyway except that it caused Nero and Spock to show up. However, it's important to point out that in Universe-1: - Romulus itself has been obliterated, and with it probably a large chunk of the Empire, starting with Remus (if it truly is close to Romulus) - Ambassador Spock has sacrificed himself to save many other star systems from the same fate, and unbeknowns to anyone in Universe-1 is now trapped in the past of Universe-A I'm sure that the Universe-1 secondary media (probably the novels and comics only) will explore the ramifications of the movie in detail. The "Countdown" prequel comics establishes CAPTAIN Data in command of the Enterprise-E, with Picard an Ambassador to Vulcan (which is not destroyed), Geordi as the engineer that built Spock's "jellyfish" ship with the Vulcans, and Worf back with the Klingons yet again as a General. One wonders how (and if) this will be followed up in the future. Mark [/QB][/QUOTE]
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