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Baloo
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My cousin sent me the following. I found it amusing and can agree with the sentiments expressed, though not all to the same degree (I especially like Article II). It's humor -- don't forget to laugh.

[SOL: If the commentary gets ugly, move this to the Flame board, but give it a chance here first, okee?]


The following has apparently been attributed to State Representative Mitchell Kaye from GA.

quote:
"We, the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid any more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our
great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional, and other liberal bedwetters. We hold
these truths to be self-evident: that a whole lot of people are confused
by the Bill of Rights and are so dim that they require a Bill of No Rights.

ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.

ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc., but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.

ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.

ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.

ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public health care.

ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.

ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.

ARTICLE VIII: You don't have the right to demand that our children risk their lives in foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience. We hate oppressive governments and won't lift a finger to stop you from going to fight if you'd like. However, we do not enjoy parenting the entire world and do not want to spend so much of our time battling each and every little tyrant with a military uniform and a funny hat.

ARTICLE IX: You don't have the right to a job. All of us sure want all of you to have one, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.

ARTICLE X: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to pursue happiness -- which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an overabundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights."

If you agree, we strongly urge you to forward this to as many people as you can. No, you don't have to, and nothing tragic will befall you should you not forward it. We just think it is about time common sense is allowed to flourish - call it the age of reason revisited.

Thank you.


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*Applauds*

Now all you need is some gullible Senator or Congressperson to support this Bill and get it into official legislation.
Huzzah!!

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First of Two
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Actually, I posted this on the Flameboard, a loooong time ago.

And it's entirely correct.

*Now expects to see all our friends living under semisocialist governments or receiving their entitlements get hopping mad.*

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Saltah'na
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Article III: You forgot the insane-psycho-with-shotgun breaking into some place and blowing away anything in his path (including you. Mind you, how could you stop this from happening in the first place?)

Article IV: Not all unfortunate people are drunken couch potatoes. That is an unfair stereotype. Just like the so-called "Squeegee Kids".

Article V: That doesn't apply to Canada. And what about the right to an education? (just wondering)

Article IX: There are lots of people who try so damn hard with all the help as possible and STILL have bad luck finding a job. Wonder what's going on here.

Other than that, the article is crude, but satisfactory. So far.

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[This message has been edited by Tahna Los (edited April 20, 2000).]


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First of Two
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*Responds to response*

Article III: Perhaps, but it doesn't mention any negation of your right to defend yourself. Therefore, when the shotgun wielder comes, take advantage of the fact that you know your territory better than he does, take cover, and shoot him. There, that was simple.

Article IV: You don't get out and actually deal with these people much, do you? "Not every" is true. so is "A LOT" though. (Most of whom like to hang out at the library and try to access WWF or porn on the computers)

Article V: Bet Canada doesn't have our cultural problems in this respect, or as many 'projects.' And, of course, I've heard tell that socialized medicine up there is coming close to bankrupting the country...

Article IX: While that may be true in an underpopulated, mostly barren country, in the US the service industries are BOOMING. There are places around here which can't FIND people to fill positions. The problem is that they won't pay you to sit on your duff all day, like welfare does. Or, that they don't pay high enough for some people's false sense of 'pride.' "I too PROUD to flip burgers." Well your grandparents had another word for flipping burgers. They called it 'opportunity.'

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[This message has been edited by First of Two (edited April 21, 2000).]


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PsyLiam
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I was just wondering how the university grant system worked in the US? Do you get subsidised for going to University? Or do you have to pay for it all yourself?

I get 3 installments of �1,400 a year. Because my parents don't (can't) work. I also don't have to pay university fees (because again, my parents are on income support). They can't afford to give me any money. My flatmate, whose parents earn more, gets the same loan as me, but also has to pay �300 uni fees a year. My other flatmate comes from a wealthier family in Liverpool, and only gets 3 lots of �1000.

Is this a lot compared to the US? I doubt it, since none of my mates complain about not being allowed to own 3 cars. I can barely afford to run the one I've got.

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Saltah'na
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Responding to the responses to the responses :

ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.

The above says that you must be held responsible if you stick a screwdriver in your eye. Fine. What I was trying to say that if the shotgun-wielding-maniac comes in and you don't have a gun, are you "responsible for your own death" since you did not have a gun?

Article 4: Living right next to, working in, and going to school in a large city with an ever increasing homeless and poverty rate, yes. Unfortunately, due to your statement, I bet that you've never encountered a person living in poverty, have you?

Article 5: Yes, Canada is a smaller country, so it does provide its advantages. I really don't like your term "socialized medicine". To tell you the truth, there is a problem with Medicare, as the baby boomer population is getting older (and sicker). This means that caring for these people is going to be a problem.

The US could do the same thing, that is, if the US military budget didn't eat up so much of the plate....... Not to offend any of you guys, but from what I heard, the US military is asking for more and more money.......

Article IX: *slaps First for his "barren country" remark*

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Saltah'na
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Another thing:

ARTICLE X: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to pursue happiness -- which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an overabundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights."

There are some laws that were created to help and accomodate people including minorities, homosexuals, and the poor. Such laws doesn't mean that they have the right to happines, and they would not be considered "idiotic" in my eyes.

I bet that the person who wrote this article is Republican.

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[This message has been edited by Tahna Los (edited April 21, 2000).]


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The US military is asking for more money because it's underfunded by its standards, IIRC. Of course, it would be a lot less expensive if the US would stop protecting every little wimpy country that gets attacked. And Canada, for that matter. Let's see the Canadian military do anything.

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Tahna, the comment was quite vague as to what laws its refering to. It's also true. We don't need twenty stinkin laws just to perform one function.

So what if its written by a Republican? What difference does that make?

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Republican. Bah. Democrat. Bah. I'm used to liberal vs. conservative. Hmm.. The conservatives are in power right now in N.B.... Anyhoo, why does the Canadian military have to do anything? We don't pick fights with anyone. Seems to me we clean up the mess that the US military leaves on it's "peacekeeping missions"...

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If Canada were to be attacked by anyone, though, it wouldn't be able to defend itself.

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Baloo
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The primary function of the Canadian military during wartime is to act as traffic wardens to the forces invading the U.S.

"Welcome to Canada."

"Feel free to move about the country and spend whatever currency you have brought with you on your way to anihilation at the hands of the Americans. There are many banks available to assist you in calculating the current exchange rate of your currency. Please do not attempt to pass military scrip for actual money, as it is considered very ill-mannered."

"Please observe all posted speed limits while within Canadian territory, and be aware that causing any part of Canada to explode without clearing things with the Foreign office is likely to result in a severe counterattack by our neighbors to the south. We therefore ask you to refrain from hostile acts until you cross the border."

"Thank you for visiting Canada."

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Tahna, I live in northern Appalachia (a region of the Appalachian mtn. range extending from PA southwards towards KY). It is probably the most poverty-ridden place in the United States, especially since the steel industry went plotz. I deal with the "poor" (read: people 'dependent' on government checks to survive) on a daily basis.

I see how dependency breeds dependency. I see how the 'gimmie this, I'm entitled to it' attitude really works, and what kind of person it creates, and it's appalling. I see people using their check money on booze, drugs, and luxury items. I see people who live on our tax money preying on the citizenry, and each other, and doing everything they can to cheat the system for a few dollars more, or just to avoid the hassle of having to do anything.

I see a new company come into town and ask for unskilled labor to TRAIN for FREE, and hardly get anyone because they're not paying enough above what welfare pays.

I see a guy 'begging' turn down a better-than-minimum-wage job offer because it's a 'hassle.'

So don't tell me what I deal with.

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Saltah'na
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That's America. Dependency up here in Canada is a different situation. And dependents up here aren't the same people you describe down there.

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