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"Bush took a tour of the Energy Department, and announced $85.7 million in federal grants to encourage academia and the private sector to develop fuel technologies and energy-efficient products."
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Didn't Clinton make that same promise several years ago to the tune of around $200 million?
Maybe I'm wrong. I've also heard that the Republican dominated Senate at the time blew that proposal right out of the water.
Admittedly, this information may be wrong, but it is what I have heard.
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I can buy parts for the wholesale company I work for here in the states, a stainless steel jaw slide, for $2.35 (plus shipping), or from China for $1.167 (including shipping).
Most of the stainless steel, in the boating industry, except tubing, is made in China, Taiwan (Mini-China), or Philippines.
Chrome Plated Zamack (Die Cast) is mostly made in the States, but, is becoming more popular from overseas sources.
A lot of the foundries in the above nations are becoming QS/ISO-9000/2000 certified, to maintain the ability to sell in the States. This certification covers all aspects of how a factory operates, from how paper work is done to production quality. If the people pressure the government in to getting the big three auto makers, which started the whole thing, to add pollution control standards then we may have something.
Then we can argue over whether the government should be forcing this to happen, and if so what is the limit.... etc....
The first step, that I see, to the One World Government that we see in Terk, is Global Economy. Which is what binds nations and starts wars.
Where to start???
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Surely we've already started. Or doesn't the EU count?
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Omega, sometimes you say things that really tickle moi pink. *Cue Liam with smartarse comment*.
China's potential military threat is negligable, in relation to you. They may be able to overrun Korea, but they are hardly the equivalent of the Soviets (Armies from the 80's not the current Russian ones). Not even close, as a matter of fact.
YOU are much more of a threat. Now, I'm hardly saying that China is a nice sweet country, personally I feel their govt is a bunch of aggressive arse wipes who have a overblown case of middle kingdom syndrome, but obliterating them is not an option.
Jay: As for the 'free market' what a bunch of bollocks! You just raised your tariffs - hypocrits! Listen, China will act in China's own interest, as will the USA. They will use you for their gain and make some minor concessions, as will you. Money won't change a damn thing. Hell, it may even give them what the need to actually turn into a threat. I mean a real one, not the fantasy nation that Ommey is on about.
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Daryus, they have ballistic missiles. They are controlled by people with no morals, and who don't like my country. They ARE a threat, whether you think so or not.
Us, a threat? Just how did you come to this conclusion? No, wait, "conclusion" implies a chain of reasoning, which I seriously doubt that you've formed on the subject. Have we started a war of agression since the invasion of Canada in 1812? If we wanted to rule the world, we could and would. We don't. China's the threat to world peace, not us.
As for the market, the US market is free. The world market isn't. Simple enough.
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But considering that the U.S. of good ole' A couldn't even rule Vietnam, Omega's statement seems to say enough for why homeschooling is a piss-poor idea.
quote:Originally posted by Omega: They are controlled by people with no morals... They ARE a threat, whether you think so or not... China's the threat to world peace, not us.
The above quote is a sample of propaganda. In this case, we have a wonderful example of a technique called "name-calling." In this instance, we are attempting to demonize our enemy in order to give ourselves the reassuring feeling that we are not wrong in our effort to turn a quarter of the world's population into free-floating molecules.
quote:Us, a threat?
Yes, believe it or not, the United States of America is a threat. We possess what is probably the world's most advanced military in terms of technology. We have a nuclear device strapped to everything that moves short of gerbils and mosquitos. We have enough firepower stockpiled to send the Earth back in time by several centuries. We have shown ourselves to be quite the righteous people as we interfere in the internal dynamics of other nations. There's Panama that immediately comes to mind as well as quite a few West African nations. How about the School of the Americas, where we train guerrillas so that they can go start revolutions in their home countries? We done all this before, and we have the means of doing all this again. In summary, yes, we are a threat.
quote:If we wanted to rule the world, we could and would.
No, we could not. The United States may have the most military technology available, but all that is good for is bringing the governments of the other hundred-plus nations into submission. And even if the governments submitted, the 6 billion people of the world would not. There would be constant rebellions and other acts of violent outrage. The US could never force 6 billion people to believe that taking over the world was a good thing.
However, before even getting there, one has to assume that the United States could single-handedly defeat the rest of the world combined. This is not possible as well. As we bombed them to hell, many nations (like the UK, France, Russia, China) would retaliate. The result would be anarchy as all governments collapsed. Read Alas, Babylon! for one interpretation of how things could have gone if the USA and USSR squared off many years ago.
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If Omega was German, and born in the 1930s, he'd have been a Hitler Youth, wouldn't he?
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I think Herr Adolf would've listened to Omega's arguments as to why the white race is superior, gotten a hint that the white race maybe isn't so superior and taken up painting again.
Can we get Rufus here?
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