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Curry Monster
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Every now & then its quite satisfying to watch someone kick someone elses arse all around town. Amen Jay.
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Omega
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(2) interest on transfers between the trust fund and the general fund account for the Supplemental Security Income program due to adjustments in the allocation of administrative expenses

So basically, this says that the Congress took a frikin' lot of money out of the SS trust fund, and is recording that they're paying interest as they give SS just enough money to work with for that year out of the general fund.

The amounts appropriated by clauses (3) and (4) shall be transferred from time to time from the general fund in the Treasury to the Federal Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund, and the amounts appropriated by clauses (1) and (2) of subsection (b) shall be transferred from time to time from the general fund in the Treasury to the Federal Disability Insurance Trust Fund, such amounts to be determined on the basis of estimates by the Secretary of the Treasury of the taxes, specified in clauses (3) and (4) of this subsection, paid to or deposited into the Treasury; and proper adjustments shall be made in amounts subsequently transferred to the extent prior estimates were in excess of or were less than the taxes specified in such clauses (3) and (4) of this subsection.

OK, so the money in the SS budget comes straight out of the general fund. Exactly what I've been saying. Your SS taxes don't go into some mystical bank account. They go straight to the general fund with every other tax. Further, if that's the case, then there would be no money for SS to work with if the Congress didn't give it some from the general fund. Meaning there is no real trust fund, but simply a division of the federal budget called such.

If it gets paid out every year based on that year's income, it isn't a trust fund. It's wealth redistribution, socialism, and that's a totally different concept.

Thanks for all your help, Jay.

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Omega
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Here's a crash course in economics, for those of you who actually believe the crap the Democrats spew.

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Jay the Obscure
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Yeah right.

cooo-cooo.

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The_Tom
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I'd be about as likely to trust Pravda's analysis of the US Budget as any filth the Heritage Foundation coughs up.

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Sol System
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Hey, don't knock Pravda. When it comes to the news, they're hard core.
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Siegfried
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Please note that y'all may want to skip this post if you don't wanna click on a link to a news story of a questionable nature. Thank you and have a nice day...

Actually, Sol, I think the link that Jordan provided us with a couple of weeks ago is even more hard core.

[Edit: added a warning so that no more unsuspecting souls accidentally see and read something they don't want to.]

[ September 03, 2001: Message edited by: Siegfried ]



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Malnurtured Snay
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I didn't even think that was a week since he sent that ...

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Siegfried
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Eleven days. I was close.

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Nim
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Now that's prime filth right there.
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bX
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You are my hero, Jay.

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Siegfried
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Sorry about that, Nimrod. It's a little late, but I went back and added a warning to the head of my post.

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Nim
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I was actually joking about it, I'm not a prude or anything. "Prime filth" is what we say to eachother sometimes at my work, among other things.
And it's not exactly prime filth, that was just a genetic experiment following an accident.
Now, rotten-dot-com, that's pure evil. ;-I

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