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Spike
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http://www.dailytrek.de/archiv/99849074465682.shtml

I'm not sure, if I like the helm station.

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Fabrux
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Wow. I like. I like very much.

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Siegfried
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The design of the helm station is certainly unusual. The convex control surface, the steering wheel, and just the asymmetric design of it is certainly odd. However, I think it'll grow on me eventually.

That's really the first big and clear picture I've seen of the bridge. I really like it, I must say. It has a lot of unusual design elements that make it kinda cool to sit and look at. You've got a ring of big control consoles with physical buttons, levers, sliders, knobs, etc that give a nice feel. The color are a nice combination of the metalic silver of the consoles with the tan-gray of the walls and elevated floor sections. There's also a nice use of pastels on the wall-mounted controls. I like the handrails and support handgrips lining the elevated bridge section and built into the supports and consoles. I'm not sure if it's a set element or a design element, but are those track lights on the bridge ceiling?

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OnToMars
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What I don't like (and I do like it, BTW) is the little grill thingies that look like they're off a coffee maker or hamburger grill. If anybody can put up the pic, they're at the top right of the helm console pic. Up and just a little left of the handrail that's on the very right side of the pic.

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Bernd
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The details are nice, but the bridge as a whole is even much less imaginative than I feared. It has neither the expected "industrial" look, nor is the layout in any way different than on later ships. The sensor thingy hanging from the ceiling, the shapes of the various stand-alone stations and of the railings, the deepened floor. The production designers just continued where they stopped. Eveything is much as on Starfleet ships 200 years later. This could be well the bridge of a sister ship of Voyager if one doesn't look a bit closer.
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The bridge has a bit of a cluttered look to it, not something you'd expect from a modern Starfleet vessel, but the general feel and design elements make it look perfect for this ship in the 22nd century. It 'feels' just right, I like it. The one slight drawback is this picture:

http://www.startrekweb.net/dailytrek/enterprise_konsole.jpg

The appearance of these monitors look a little too present day for what one may imagine for a starship 150 years from now, but that's the only minor nit.

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colin
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From TV Guide
"The bridge includes a navigation table and a console [helm] made from a discarded audio mixer from a recording studio; the 1950's-esque joystick, gearshift knobs and steering wheel are a mix of Porshe parts and scrap from Hughes aircraft." (Pg. 29)

I could say a word or two of nastiness on this sentence and its implications. Instead, I will say nothing.


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Anybody notice the panel on the lower right corner of the helm? Looks an awful lot like Kirk's TOS armrest. Wouldn't be surprised if Okuda labeled it the same as an in-joke. The rows of rocker switches recall the original helm.

Speaking of helm, is that the term they'll be using? Are they finally dumping "conn"?

But wait, what's this? The transporter platform is all new? Is this the end of a tradition? They always said with pride that parts of the TOS transporter pads were reused in every Trek transporter since (with the possible exception of the nontraditional DS9).

And I really like the picture of the weapons control station at the bottom of the page. When I designed a ship for a friend several years ago, I did much the same thing for bridge controls. Lots of physicality and variety, a 6-axis control stick like the Spaceball for rotation and translation (almost identical to the one shown here), and no smooth Okudagrams. Wow, GMTA!

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Obese Penguin
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I think the bridge looks fine, not to modern , infact one can say it look a bit to "today" for my tastes but I dont really see that as being a make or break point for the show.

On another note... I'm having some serious doubts about this image.

http://www.startrekweb.net/dailytrek/enterprise_konsole.jpg

It doesnt look like it fits enterprise. Infact I have a hunch that this is an image from Starship Troopers , if you notice the shoulders on the uniform of the guy down at the left are grey like the uniforms in Starship Troopers and the ship on that monitor looks ALOT like the ships in Starship Troopers.

Thanks to our friends at Babel Fish and Altavista I have this translation of the text on the site next to the image.

quote:
Intermediary way was sent us by a reader of our page a further picture of the Enterprise. It shows a console, which is probably for the controlling of the weapons responsible.
Cordial thanks at Alex Leiner for this picture!

Hmm Weapons Console ... now if you look down in the right hand corner you will see a hand with a nice nail polish job , now this could be confirmation of Reeds sexual preferance ... j/k

It looks more to me like the ending scene from Starship Troopers where Denise Richard's character gains command of a cruiser. That would be Denise Richard's hand.

Hmm , its happening again I'm becoming a minutae freak! This can only get worse as September Nears :/

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Okay, consider me fooled. Never watched Starship Troopers all the way through. Just too dull and gory for me.

The monitors should have tipped me off. Troopers was made years ago when these were state of the art. I expect Enterprise sets, if they use any CRT screens, would use FD Trinitron or Diamondtron NF tubes with absolutely flat faces. Assuming they don't use active matrix LCDs.

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Actually they use plasma screens , $7000 plasma screens , they went all out on this one

I spotted it right off the bat , I saw Starship Troopers a few times (3 times to be exact over a streak of boring Saturday afternoons).

I'm so convinced the creators and production staff of that movie are all closet Nazi's , all the uniforms in that movie look like left SS uniforms , I mean Doogie Howzers character actually wore a TRUE SS uniform , not to mention that SS Skull was everywhere.

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Spike
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Yeah, looked at my DVD and it's definately from Starshiptroopers (or Berman is as a great fan of STT as of the Akira-Design).

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Siegfried
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To quote from another thread, "I think we have a winner."
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Obi Juan
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Speaking of helm, is that the term they'll be using? Are they finally dumping "conn"?

I hope so. If not then we'll throw "conn" onto the growing pile of "It changed by TOS and then changed back again."

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I just watched "Return To Tomorrow" yesterday and I could have swore that Kirk told Sulu to take the conn when he and Spock went down to Sargon's planet...

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