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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Actually, I was saying that just because the art depatrment stuck a letter on the end of the numbe, it doesn't mean that there have been oyther ships with that number before. I'ts just another registry number. We don't know all the details of SF's registry scheme, howeve I personally have seen plenty of canonical evidence that says to me that it is both non-chronological and that letter suffixes don't always mean what they do for the Enterprise.

BTW, OnToMars I do know offhand that the first aircraft carrier was the U.S.S. Langley, CV-1.

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Shik
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ACTUALLY, the first aircraft carrier was HMS Argus....but I'm not up on British registry schemese enough to tell you if she had a number or not. It WAS 1918, after all.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Sorry, I didn't think of other navies, i just meant the USN.

Hey, Shik, did you ever post that big galaxy map you said you had?

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PsyLiam
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"Well, except for Liam's beliefs, Riker is a pretty smart guy -- I mean, how many people applied for the XO post on the Enterprise? And only Riker got it. He's always been at least tactically intelligent -- I think "Peak Performance" mentioned how he used a planet's atmosphere to cloak his ship during a hostile engagement?"

Actually, I'd forgotten Jeff had this unrequieted love for Riker (hey, if he'd do it with an androgonous race, you've got half a chance Jeff).

But let's look at the men on the Enterprise.

Picard
Geordi
Worf
Riker
Data
Wesley

Now, which of those people are obviously more intelligent than Will?

Picard
Geordi
Data
Wesley

Which of those people have managed a promotion in the past 11 years?

Geordi
Worf
Wesley

So, to summerise, Riker is more intelligent than Troi. Whoop. And dee doo as well.

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Riker was ...

a) Offered a choice between two promotions prior to TNG: one to command of his own ship, the Drake, the other to XO of Enterprise. He picked XO on the Enterprise.

b) Offered a promotion to Captain of the Aries during TNG's 2nd season. Turned it down to remain on Enterprise.

c) Promoted to Captain in BOBW, and offered command of Melbourne. Turned it down (good decision), and resumed role as XO of Enterprise.

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Like the Mighty Monkey of Mim, I, too, believe that the first American aircraft carrier was "registered" as CV-1. If that is true, and we both knew that (I am assuming that he, like I, is not a naval history buff), one might hope the "average" United States Navy captain would know it, too.

I am surprised that the 1305-E registry of "Yamato," wherein it would signify that she is the sixth ship to bear the name, is not more popular, given some fans view of Starfleet. Since some seem to think that Starfleet is little more than a twentieth century navy operating in space, one might believe certain fans would already be working on the six-part crossover book series about ships named after a large and powerful twentieth century battleship:

Part 1--The first "Yamato" (what Starfleet built once "Enterprise" proved so whimpy)
Part 2--The Dreadnaught "Yamato" (sister to the "Entente)
Part 3--The Excelsior Class "Yamato" (commanded by that Indian captain in "Star Trek IV," who lost the "Yorktown")
Part 4--The Ambassador Class "Yamato" ("persuaded" the Klingons to become allies)
Part 5--The Prometheus Class "Yamato" (spied on the Romulans during their quiet period, and confirmed the 5xxxx registry number since it came before . . . )
Part 6--The Galaxy Class "Yamato" (we all know Captain Donald Varley would come alive on paper)

Personally, when the producers screw up, but there was an effort to make it right originally (Mike Okuda tried to correct the Yamato's registry number the first time), I am willing to give them a second chance. Thus, I accept the 7xxxx number.


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And who said Riker was a good tactician?

He allowed "Enterprise" to be taken over by two Birds of Prey commanded by a few Ferengi.

"Enterprise (D)" was destroyed under his command by one old Bird of Prey.

He resorted to a hokey gimmick ("The Riker Maneuver") instead of letting the Son'a ships have it (or is the most advanced, powerful starship in the fleet no match for the Son'a?).

Ladies man, yes. Tactician? No.


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The point about Riker's being S-M-R-T has to do w/ various things he's said, not done. For example, calling Chief O'Brien "lieutenant", or asking what trilithium was.

Nevertheless, he'd have to be really dumb to read "NCC-1305-E" off of a hull that said "NCC-71807".

BTW, of course we've seen an NCC-2010 before: the Jenolan. Otherwise, why would there be any problem w/ the Nash?


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