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As we all know, there's a lot of stuff we don't agree about (gee, what a revelation ). Now, a lot of these things probably won't be resolved any time soon, due to differing viewpoints. My SFSD page represents, well, my own views, because I think they're the right ones. However, I've decided to do some sort of sub-page which would include everything we don't agree on, hopefully making everyone happy and lessening the number of complaints/emails I get saying "No, that's not right, it's really supposed to be..." This page would be self-contained, but linked to where appropriate from the other various pages.
Both Bernd and IdCrisis have something like what I'm proposing, although I'd like mine to be more comprehensive and represent everyone's opinion on the matter. In fact, I think it would be great if, once we have everything sorted out, people would write up something about each topic/problem themselves. TSN could ramble on about the Yamato's registry and City of New Orleans, Tom can provide all his evidence that the little attack-fighters are 35m, etc., and it would all be included and credited accordingly.
However, before this happens, we need a list of all this stuff. I'm talking about everything from long-standing debates like the Melbourne registry and Apollo-class design to recent things like the Ganda/er.
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Oh, goody. Can I do "Why there isn't an Excelsior-class USS Lexington?"
Others. . . and one I've been wondering about recently: Can the name of a class ship be used again? Evidence:
- The USS Constitution not having the lowest registry of all Constitution class ships. . . - A mention of a USS Excelsior in DS9. . . - The Yeager class and the Sabre-class USS Yeager. . .
Why is it important with so few examples? Because it's (to me) one of the most valid reasons why they haven't had an Enterprise-class.
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Well, of course a class ship's name can be used again...I'd be surprised if anyone were to disagree, actually.
I was thinking of the Lexington, in fact...it's pretty straightforward, and if you were to write something up, it would be appreciated.
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Hey Frank, would I be able to put my U.S.S. Trial theory on there too? I have some other stuff which I could probably contribute, once I think of it.
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Certainly! Er, what exactly is your USS Trial theory?
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Ok. My USS Trial theory is that there is an Excelsior-class refit ship named USS Trial NX-2022. Seeing as where there were a lot of changes made to the basic Excelsior spaceframe, I cojectured that they built a testbed first, hence the NX- registry.
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Of course. I should have known. You always need proof or evidence, Frank. I don't have any evidence. It's simply a theory that has yet to be proven or disproven.
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Well, the whole point of this was to explain topics that have contradicting or ambiguous evidence, not no evidence. I thought the Trial's registry was given somewhere or something.
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Okay, here are a few topics (certainly not all of them, though). We know the issues surrounding many of these, but they deserve explanations for those not familiar with them:
- Apollo design - Yamato registry (TSN) - New Orleans-class/City of New Orleans-class (TSN) - 1700 Constitution: class ship? (TSN) - Melbourne registry - Curry/Shelley registry - Shenandoah registry - Raman registry - Ganda/er spelling - Br*ttain spelling - Jenol*n spelling - Bozeman: still in use? - Constellation: still in use? - Excelsior: still in use? - Carolina: class? - Mayflower: exists? - Discovery: exists? - Trial: exists? - Studio models (Leeds/Trinculo/Valkyrie)
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But, Elim, not everyone agrees with you, which is the whole point of the exercise.
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Well, erm, Stipes etc. tend to be wrong, a lot.
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). Now, a lot of these things probably won't be resolved any time soon, due to differing viewpoints. My 
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