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AndrewR
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What is that pointy ship that I asked about a few weeks ago that is in the FC sketch book... I though it could have been the origin of that chunk of starship that we see the Defiant zoom past.

I like that ship - who ever did it.

I agree that Eave's design all have that 'pointed' and in my opinion - unrealistic (not physically realistic) look about them. Yeah may it worked with the Son'a - but it's in everything.

I mean there's even the "eave's nacelle" term that people are all familiar with around here.

WHY did he have to 'point' up the bussards on the Shuttle and Captain's Yacht in Ins?

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
What is that pointy ship that I asked about a few weeks ago that is in the FC sketch book... I though it could have been the origin of that chunk of starship that we see the Defiant zoom past.

What "pointy sip" do you speakth of, my freind?
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WHY did he have to 'point' up the bussards on the Shuttle and Captain's Yacht in Ins?

AT least it was'nt a "highlighter nacelle". [Wink]

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Now, now... highlighter nacelles were a necessity when ships were physically created for a battle scene in the early 1990's unlike the late 1990, where the Dominion War was all CGI ship explosions showed a free for all. Both have pros and cons and that's why I respect George Lucas for using both mediums still in the Star Wars films. The two mediums compliment each other nicely.

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AndrewR
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
What is that pointy ship that I asked about a few weeks ago that is in the FC sketch book... I though it could have been the origin of that chunk of starship that we see the Defiant zoom past.

What "pointy sip" do you speakth of, my freind?

I don't have the original sketch - but here is a schematic done by someone...

http://lobotomy.pleh.net/~flareupload/uploads/44/zodiac-goodson-top.jpg

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quote:
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I finally decided to register after lurking here for a couple of months.

I like your member number. [Smile]
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Amasov Prime
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Two Starfleet ships - besides the E-E and the 4 FC ships (in several design stages) - are shown. One is the early dropped USS Endeavour, the other one is an unnamed ship done by John Goodson. If we do not count the various Enterprise pre-designs shown in the book (all clearly labeled as USS Enterprise and thus not ment to be anything else), we have eight ships so far: Sovereign, Steamrunner, Saber, Norway, Akira, 'Goodson', Zandura and Endeavour.

The only existing Endeavour-design, done by John Eaves.
The mysterious NCC 7105, done by John Goodson.

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Lee
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Oh, I like the 'Goodson!' I'm guessing that's a secondary hull, separated from the saucer by a neck/pylon?

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I always figured it was a direct bolting.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov:
The only existing Endeavour-design, done by John Eaves.

Er, this Endeavour looks very much like an upsidedown Enterprise-E.
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Well, I imagine a little more detailed design work would have made it look a little more unique but really it's no more similar to the Sovreign than the Nebula is to the Galaxy.

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Jason Abbadon
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The Goodson schematic is nice, but the saucer is a bit too squared when compared to the sketch.
She looks like a design from the Ageian line of thinking.
Are those pulse phasers on the nacelle pylons? Torp launchers?
I really plan on making that ship!
I need your help with the following:
Ship's length.
Secondary hull.
Forward view.

If you guys can help with these, I'll build the ship in the next two weeks. [Wink]

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Gvsualan
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quote:
Originally posted by Wraith:
Well, I imagine a little more detailed design work would have made it look a little more unique but really it's no more similar to the Sovreign than the Nebula is to the Galaxy.

I'm not sure I agree...flip the ship over and put the saucer on top or flip the ship insideout (unfortunately MSPaint can't do what I am saying)but it looks much more like the Sovereign than a Nebby does in relation to a Galaxy. It's hard to judge by the angle of the picture.

My POV from the picture I was looking at:
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...as if you were looking up at the E-E from behind.

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Amasov Prime
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I have to agree; the Endeavour-sketches do look like some of the early Enterprise-E drawings, also shown in the book. Eaves probably reused some of the dropped ideas for the E.

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There is also another version of the Steamrunner in the sketchbook with the nacelle caps under the saucer and the final pod up instead of down. Top /side/front views.
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Jason Abbadon
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Got a scan of the alternate Steamrunner?

I think the Goodson is probably about 350 meters long: not too mamy windows, but its's length is mostly nacelles.
Looks like a Intrepid-style flattened triangle at the ship's bow: probably a row of windows should go there.
The lifeboats would be the same as those on the Sabre.
The secondary hull looks to be about as large as the Defiant class.

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