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I'd downgrade that to a B- as I challenge the sources he's using and the theory behind said sources. The only saucer movie i can think of where the ships 'tilt' in any conventional way is the bloody awful 'Earth v's the Flying Saucers' where the model saucers were animated using stop motion, and that's only really when they are being interfered with magnetically by our square-headed hero and a large magnet. Speaking as an occasional animator I fully realise how important it is to do little things like the tilt in helicopters and having landing gear sag as a helo lifts off, (check this helo animation I did for demo )it helps make a model appear to have weight and inertia. In Trek, inertia is negated by machinery and all flight controlled by fields and exotic tech which makes such moves redundant. When I animate such things I tend to avoid adding inertial effects, it adds to the high-tech authenticity if stuff uses non-ballistic motion now.
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By the DS9 era, ship designs come down to very few needed criteria:
Unobstructed main deflector (for those ships that use the big glowy deflectors- not the Miranda)
Unobstructed weapons ports and phaser strips (part of why I altered the Niagra's nacelle placment)
Impulse engine vents
Warp engine vents (the glowy part of the nacelle)
escape pods (not always visible from the hull)
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That's mostly true....except for the Sabre. That one sits over the shuttlebay (although not by much).
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ASSUMPTION!!!
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No....that's definitely the small shuttlebay at the ship's front. It's a recurring theme in Alex Jaeger's First Contact designs.
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ASSUMPTION!!!
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Oh, just build the model already! You'll see! I'll show you! I'LL SHOW YOU ALL!!!!
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There's only one way that can be a shuttlebay: The DS9TM-dimensions are correct.
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quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: There's only one way that can be a shuttlebay: The DS9TM-dimensions are correct.
And we now they are not. AT 179 meters long, the Sabre could still hold shuttlepods or the "Chaffe" shuttle design. The whole "scoop" part of the sabre would have to open though and not just the part under the bridge. I guess it could be torpedo launcher....although te thought of the bridge being directly over the torpedo room is a bit dicey.
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I never assumed there was a shuttlebay under the bridge of the Saber. I'm not even sure if there was ever supposed to be one on the CGI, which is rather coarse.
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What would you think is in there? Aux deflector? Torp launcher? Snapple machine? Giant grinning teeth?
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