"I would have been impressed if when Archer and T'Pol returned, Trip didn't recognize the Xindi bodies or something."
Why not? Trip has seen Xindi lizards before, hasn't he? I mean, they did invade the ship at one point. And I'm sure everyone has seen pictures, anyway.
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Archer didn't finish the sentence about fossil fuels... I'm not certain, the way he is talking about it, that we run out in 2061 or we stop using it in 2061.
If a Tricorder can send out an EMP that is "tuned" right then it can work on an ATM.
End of the episode was lame, obviously trek writers aren't cop writers... they wouldn't have left the car there like that.
Oh and TOS breaks away from our timeline back in the 1960's when they launch orbital missile platforms--- that whole Soviet Union thing adds to the difference in timelines as well.
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I enjoyed it. Archer and T'Pol have to be about the most clued-in time travellers in all Trek, given how easily they got themselves sorted out.
At first glance I thought the Xindi pistols were re-uses of the Reman pistols, but I don't think they were. I'll confirm it when I do me some cappin' tomorrow.
So, either the Xindi War doesn't happen in the 'proper' Trek timeline, or Daniel's 30th-century is an entirely different future from the 'proper' one that follows on from 29th-century with Starfleet timeships etc. I suspect the former, and since the Xindi homeworld has already been destroyed in the past by humans from the future, I'm betting that it'll be Archer & Co. who'll maybe prevent it happening in the first place.
So we could have this massive re-set whereupon the original menace from Future Guy and the Suliban will re-assert itself. . .
quote:Originally posted by J: Oh and TOS breaks away from our timeline back in the 1960's when they launch orbital missile platforms--- that whole Soviet Union thing adds to the difference in timelines as well.
Oh, please God, not this again.
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Archer never completes his sentence. The gist of the conversation is: T'Pol: "Didn't your people know they were running out of fossil fuels in this time?" Archer: "They had for about 30 years. But it wasn't until 2061 that..."
Interesting to speculate on what comes next since 2061 is such a suspicious year:
- the fuel ran out and that led to World War III - we developed fusion (OR) antimatter power and stopped
quote:Originally posted by Joshua Bell: Re: 2061 and fossil fuels
Archer never completes his sentence. The gist of the conversation is: T'Pol: "Didn't your people know they were running out of fossil fuels in this time?" Archer: "They had for about 30 years. But it wasn't until 2061 that..."
"....the giant Megadues' destroyed civilization and drank all the fuel."
Cool! I see a whole CapComms right here!
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"I would have been impressed if when Archer and T'Pol returned, Trip didn't recognize the Xindi bodies or something."
Why not? Trip has seen Xindi lizards before, hasn't he? I mean, they did invade the ship at one point. And I'm sure everyone has seen pictures, anyway.
Well the idea was that by going back in time and thwarting this Xindi plot, Archer and T'Pol nix some horribly small tiny, yet vastly important event which means the Xindi never come to Earth and blow shit up. And so Trip has never seen a Xindi before.
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Heh, actually, it WOULD be interesting to see the Xindi trying the same thing, in Bagdhad or Shanghi.
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...Thus giving Bashir, Kim, Hoshi, or any of the minority characters something to do besides be the subject of expository "what is this, sir?" dialogue.
quote:Originally posted by Harry: Basically, the Xindi have somehow managed to travel to 2004, want to collect samples of all 8 bloodtypes to make and release a biotoxin. Archer manages to stop them, Xindi try to spread unfinished toxin anyway, Archer prevents that too and beams everything back to NX-01.
So, umm, having yet not seen the episode yet, let me get this straight; these guys are kidnapping people to get different blood types in order to create a biotoxin.
The only comment I have at this point: 'why not just visit a "blood bank"?'
And why *Detroit* ?! Ah well, that's the closest the Trek world will ever get to where I live.
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Hey, I'm still waiting for them to attack Canada. In the grand scheme of things, this country is way too nice for any aliens to attack.
They probably didn't got the blood bank because they needed fresh samples and probably other biological data from the donor. They were extracting blood on a regular basis from the victims... Also, donor blood isn't the best way to learn about white blood cells (useful knowledge if you're designing a virus), platelet count, and other blood factors.
Note that they say that with only 6 of 8 blood types, the virus will be able to kill "only" 75% of the population. They seem to omit the fact that AB+ and B- blood, the types they had yet to go, accounts for only 6% of the population, according to this!
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