WizArtist II
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I think the "D" was... but not the newer "E". What happens when the flagship is undergoing refit for months or when there Isn't an Enterprise in the fleet? I don't believe they built the "D" because the "C" was lost. I always thought there was some time between these two ships. Also, would you want your flagship to be behind the times, such as the "A" was?
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quote:Originally posted by Wraith: Well, technically any ship with a flag officer on is a flagship. So pretty much any ship could be a flagship.
Admiral Ross commanded the invasion of Cardassia from a shuttlepod......hmmm.....
Probably not.
He's got a Prommie called the USS Cerebus in the DS9 books (for traveling at Ludicris Speed across the federation). Kinda akooky nmae for a ship but if war is hell, the guardian to hell should probably be a Fanboy-Tough(TM) ship.
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quote:Originally posted by WizArtist II: Also, would you want your flagship to be behind the times, such as the "A" was?
We don't have any proof that the A was "behind the times". Okay, it was probably not as 733t as the Excelsior, but if the majority of the fleet was Mirandas, then the A could probably kick a fair bit of bottom.
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I doubt the feds wanted the Romulans to feel in any way threatened by the ship they sent to the conferance and the Belerophon did indeed carry an understated almost nervous presence alongside the thirty plus warbirds guarding the planet. I think the Federation and the Romulans are having to scale down the size of their ships because for so long both powers were living in a buble, isolated from real concerns. Both had gone about their business for fifty-plus years with no real threats apparent, then out of the blue conflict after conflict, the Romulan Valdore class (although pretty crap) looks about a third the size of a D'deridex and about a tenth the mass! Likewise all the new federation designs are far smaller. The E is the only Enterprise in history that is smaller than the previous one, that says it all about the direction of starfleets shipbuilding.
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Or, it says that they needed a new Enterprise and they figured they may as well make the new flagship the current state-of-the-art. Yes, the newest ships we've seen the Federation make are smaller than the Galaxy Class. But how do we know that hasnt always been the trend with the majority of the more rarely seen classes being smaller and the Galaxy being the vast exception.
Also, "having" to scale down and "being able" to scale down are not the same things at all. Increased automation, the ability to create heavier arsenals in smaller packages, etc. might allow the Federation to spend less resources on ship construction and manpower per ship. I don't think that anyone would argue that the E was less powerful than the D even though it was smaller. So one could aruge that it is a greater success, since it requires fewer personnel and less raw materials to construct while still accomplishing the same general mission type.
As for the Romulans not facing any concerns recently, it was stated fairly clearly at the end of season one that important matters had kept them away. Sounds fairly concerning.
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I always hoped those "imporntant matters" involved some undisclosed Borg conflict on the other side of their empire.
Or possibly just a large scale conflict with some new power (I'll say the Hur'q because I'm a shameless fanboy cretin).
Or they were just full of shit and it takes ten years to build one Warbird.
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Maybe they were getting over their exposure (presumably) to the Klingon-borne Human-augment virus thingy that removed their brow-ridges from TOS--> beginning ~25 pre-Voyager's "Eye of the Needle".
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Whatever these important matters where weren't important enough to remove the Romulan's arrogance on their first encounter with the Enterprise, they had a swagger that implied if it was a war they had been engaged in it was a fairly successfull one. "you imply we need permission (to cross the zone) we do not" Hardly fearfull of the back-lash a new war would bring, in marked contrast to Starfleet's willingness to destroy the phoenix following wolf 359. I always assumed it was a political situation, whatever it was started with the fallout from Tomed, possably a coup or a civil war...
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Or, you know, maybe their orders were to show up and act intimidating? I mean, that's all you can say for sure.
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