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Jason, here's some answers to your questions & queries:
quote:That Tolstoy would be kinda cool if the nacelles swept back- sorta like the New Orleans' do....or just straight out in a "T".
Actually, I was inspired by the Intrepid from ENTERPRISE; how the nacelle fronts sit on top of the saucer. Yes, you're right that they partially cover the phaser strip, but when I drew only half the phaser strip on the Akagi, it looked like the ship had a big smiley-face. So I said WTF.
quote:What the hell is under that nacelle pylon part though? There's something boxy between the pylon part and the second Galaxy "neck" extending upwards like the Chyenne's does...
They are actually the three rectangular "plaques" from the 3-Enterprise kit, where the decals for each ship's information goes. I glued them together and painted them black to resemble the original Excelsior's neck. They're there because I needed something to raise the pylons high enough so that the nacelle fronts touched the saucer. If I were more skilled at modelmaking, I would have cut the plaques into triangle-shapes to better match the Enterprise's neck.
quote:Your big giveaway in the pics is the quality of the models- they just would not look that shiney and new after more than a decade.
As I said, it was never really my intention to fool anyone. Plus, after my experience with the Akagi, I didn't want to go out and buy perfectly good model kits just to turn them into ugly out-of-proportion and badly-painted kitbashes just as a joke.
quote:Smart to use a sub model, though it would have worked better as a BOBW fake.
That was exactly what I was going for. Look at the side-by-side picture of the Chekov and the Ahwahnee, and then look at the pic of the Tolstoy and Ptolemy, and you'll see what I was trying to accomplish.
quote:I still say we make something in-universe from there designs...
Well, the Tolstoy was obviously supposed to be the Rigel class, and the Ptolemy was supposed to represent the Yorkshire class.
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Yes, but what does that submarine part do exactly? What role do these ships serve in the fleet?
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quote:Yes, but what does that submarine part do exactly?
You mean the sub hulls? They are meant to be transport containers, like from the original FJ Ptolemy. I thought it was a nifty idea. You may think otherwise.
quote:What role do these ships serve in the fleet?
The Ptolemy serves the same function as FJ's version: to be a tug or transport vessel. The Tolstoy I envisioned as a small interceptor or border patrol ship. Actually, I was going to originally replace the Ent-D secondary hull with a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea Flying Sub to make the ship look even smaller (an idea I got from Mike Okuda himself), but I didn't have time to order it before April 1st.
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A flying sub with a bigger (1400th) bridge module would have worked nicely.
I prefer the idea of a transport to a cargo ship for this: by TNG, cargo should be just whatever you feed into the replicator and possibly antimatter. Thta sub partcould be lined with big cruise ship windows and made to look like an old passenger liner.
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quote:A flying sub with a bigger (1400th) bridge module would have worked nicely.
Both models already have the 1/1400 bridge module. And I think my next kitbash (once I get some extra spending cash) is going to be a TNG Kelvin, using similar 1/2500 Ent-D saucer bottoms, but with a thicker piece of strip styrene, the Flying Sub for the secondary hull, and a 1/1400 nacelle to match the honking-huge Kelvin nacelle, but in the scale of the Kyushu, so that the ship is really small. Would you know where I could buy an Ent-D bridge module that's even larger than the 1/1400 scale, or would I have to make something myself?
quote:That sub part could be lined with big cruise ship windows and made to look like an old passenger liner.
I can still do that. I only used a magic marker to draw the windows on the saucer
quote:So any new designs on the "official" front?
Dan Curry told me that his model is packed in a box in his storage unit, which he probably won't be getting to until mid-May at the earliest, so we'll all have to be patient about that.
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You could always attempt to re-create the Mars Defense Perimiter ship design....I dont think anyone's pulled that off yet.
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Meh. That'd be boring to me. I'm much more interested in kitbashing Ent-D parts. The Galaxy class has so many different possibilities and combinations IMHO.
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You could make a GAL version of that FUCKING HIDEOUSLY AWFUL Mann-class design; just stump the nacelles into the saucer impulse deck notches. What about a blended nacelle design, something akin to Saber, Steamrunner, or Zandura?
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fuck's sake What's worse, that's one of the better starship images in comics- most are impossibly lame- often with flames shooting from the ends of nacelles.
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Lol, I was looking up Star Trek toys on Memory Alpha the other day, and I came across this cheap plastic Excelsior toy from AMT that was labeled NCC-1799.
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Not quite the Frankenstein fleet, but John Eaves posted some photos of the K-7 station the other day and in the background you can see a few AMT/ERTL Reliant and Excelsior kits that look like they could've been used in the DS9 fleet shots. I can't make out the registration on the Excelsior, but the Mirandas both have permutations of the Reliant's number.
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It's about time he posted more Trek-related stuff. The pinup girls are fine and all, but honestly these days I could care less about them.
I remember these shots from Drexler's blog, although he only had one pic that showed the other Reliant models, and it wasn't clear at all. These are a bit better, but still can't make out the name/reg for the Excelsior, or the names/regs for the Reliants other than 9481 and 41XX (although I'm guessing by how short the names are that they're more permutations of "RELIANT" like "TRIAL" was).
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