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The First One
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And UP will be back, eventually. UP3 to be exact.
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Bernd
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Leo, this is the MSD, however, your original version is crisper. I only wonder why the warp coils have been removed. This is what I received, reduced in size: http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/temp/5-msd.jpg
The sizes: Intrepid (reference): 344m
Defiant: 127m
Saber: 160m (would have very tall decks as depicted)
Prometheus: 360m
Nova: 200m (definitely too long. The ship has only 8 decks with a maximum height of 4m, and this gives us a length of around 160m)

In any case the official MSD is crap, it is lacking important details such as the exact hull shape. The only point about Leo's schematic is that the Prometheus should have two more decks in the wedge, this would also make the ship longer. I wonder why on both the official schematic and your version the nacelles are not sticking out far enough. A coincidence?


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Jim Phelps
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Bernd: I was kinda under the impression that the human figures in the Equinox cutaway vindicate Rick's comments about 13-16' decks. I got 200-220 meters regardless of whether I used the 110' total height or the human figures. Could the proportions be incorrect, meaning that the Equinox is not as elongated as in the MSD?

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First of Two
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Timo's right, though, it sure DOES look like the Sabre's torp launchers point the wrong way, back into the ship.

Is that an oops, or am I missing something?

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Thanks Bernd! As to why that image doesn't have the warp engines, it's because that was v17 of the cutout (the one people are more likely to catch on websites since their managers don't like updating...).

About how far out the nacelles are: I drew the outline from the Prometheus Schematics in ST: The magazine (http://www.shiporama.org/images/prometheus/side.jpg), it should be correct, but it can be changed easily as I still have the model in layering. As to the decks, I was told it was 13, 14, or 15, just went with whatever came out through viewport alignment - I stayed with it even after seeing Paramount's MSD which is really inaccurate in itself...

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Jim Phelps
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Ok, but what's the point in correcting MSDs anyway? They are not meant to be geometrically accurate, and even if some of the obvious systems don't show up, we can chalk it up to overlaps.

The Prometheus has 16 decks, or at least that's what Rick said was in his blueprints. I'm not sure whether people know this or not, just thought I'd mention it anyway.

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Hehe, it's more of a perfectionism guided to training. I'm looking into designing my own ships sooner or later but I want the basics down...

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Onto the next venture - I'm trying to do the Nova-Class cutaway, but I'm curious to know if anyone here has any idea what deck the shuttlebay is on?

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I heard from "Equinox" that it was one deck below the bridge, or Deck Two.

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Jim Phelps
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Nope, a major misspeak again. RS mentioned that it's supposed to be five decks down from the bridge, not two.

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With only eight decks (according to the cutaway) it'd have to be either 2-3, or 3-4 which are still aligned with the saucer module. Any ideas on this?

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It's too damned early in the morning to deal with this.

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*poke poke* Any ideas on the decks?

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The First One
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As per Matt's request, I've moved it somewhere else. I've left Sol's post in out of the respect I have for him, and the fact it just looks so damned surreal on its own. 8)

And as for Leo's question, nope.


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Where were the posts moved to?

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