quote:Originally posted by EdipisReks: my problem with reusing the BOP explosion in Generations was that it just seemed like what it was: a tacked on effect that came from something else and looks it. tacky.
I'm not sure I agree with that. I don't think someone who had never seen TUC would consider for a second that it was stock footage. IMO it was bad in that the death scene for the enemy vessel was identical for two movies in a row -- blatant and quite simply unacceptable.
And I too remember hearing some VFX guy talk about their problems in creating realistic CGI explosions. He said that it was just not technologically possible today to do realistic explosions in CGI. And even if it were possible, the cost would be much higher than blowing up a model - whatever the amount of detail.
And talking about the DS9 battle scenes: The exploding Vorchas in all the earlier episodes were models, not CGI, remember? Even the ones being destroyed by the Jem'Hadar suicide attacks in...don't recall the epsiode name.
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quote:Originally posted by Austin Powers: And talking about the DS9 battle scenes: The exploding Vorchas in all the earlier episodes were models, not CGI, remember? Even the ones being destroyed by the Jem'Hadar suicide attacks in...don't recall the epsiode name.
"Tears of the Prophets", 6th season final. Really, are you sure they were physical models? I was under the impression that the entire battle was CG.
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As i recall the reason the hulls splintered so well was cuz the models they were blowing up were cheap plastic, the Playmates Light and Sound Vor'cha toy.
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So they had CG Jemmy bugs ramming into Playmates Vor'chas? Interesting. I knew they used Playmates ships in "WotW" but I hadn't heard that for "TotP".
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Don't know, can't see that either. I think the "puff" of atmosphere in "Q Who" was just the dust kicked up when the Borg pulled out that section of the saucer.
And yes, TOTP it was. Had forgotten the name. Yes, they did use the Playmates models. Some VFX guy said so in an interview for Star Trek Monthly, a UK Trek magazine. He said they were cheap and made for a great effect. I think we can agree to that...
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Uh, the atmosphere (It's just smoke, really) can clearly be seen leaking out as the section of hull is pulled clear. I have no eagle eyes! Also, the flying Klingon is very obvious. (Though, to be fair, I have no proof that it actually was intended to be a Klingon, but it looks very much like a person.)
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Thanks for the info, Austin. I'm gonna have to watch it again sometime and take a closer look. The interview wasn't with David Stipes was it? I think he was the VFX Supervisor on that episode.
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I liked how the bussard collectors light went out... well flickered out. Should it have flickered out or just have 'lost radiance'? Why causes the 'light' in a bussard collector anyway?
I remembered when I first saw that shot... I gasped! It was pretty cool. DS9 continually had Motion-picture standard effects.
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@Dax: I'm not sure if it was David Stipes but it is a possibility. I will have to look it up which means sifting through all of my back-issues of Star Trek Monthly...this could take some time.
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Save your pennies, kids! According to HobbyLink Japan (via Starship Modeler), the price of the Bandai Enterprise will be 6500 yen, or $54 at a rate of 120 y/d.
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