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Zefram
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I had assumed that 'Jedi reflexes' referred to their ability to respond to an action that had yet to occur rather than some sort of super speed (although I guess we have seen that a couple times). Thus, Grievous might have a chance with his advanced sensors and mechanical reflexes. He may not be able to respond to a future threat, but his mechanical limbs can physically move faster than the Jedis' organic ones. And the fact that he has twice as many arms doesn't hurt either.

Finally, I think the Clone Wars cartoon at least partially explained Grievous' success. Dooku taught Grievous to use his 'unconventional attacks' to break his opponents' concentration. Since a Jedi has to concentrate at least a little to be able to effectively use the Force, Grievous' unusual techniques and four flailing light sabers (plus whatever he may be carrying with his feet) would definitely be a serious distraction and an impediment to using the Force to defeat him.

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Sol System
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Neal Stephenson had a neat op-ed recently in the New York Times about certain of these topics.

Maybe you need to use Bugmenot or something to see it, I don't know.

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From the article:

"Likewise, many have been underwhelmed by the performance of Hayden Christensen, who plays Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. Only if you've seen the 'Clone Wars' cartoons will you understand that Anakin is a seriously damaged veteran, a poster child for post-traumatic stress disorder. But since none of that background is actually supplied by the Episode III script, Mr. Christensen has been given an impossible acting task. He's trying to swim in air."

Even if that's true, I don't think it's the reason the performance was sub-par. Didn't he watch episode II?

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From the article:
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In the opening sequence of the new Star Wars movie, "Episode III: Revenge of the Sith," two Jedi knights fight their way through an enemy starship to rescue a hostage. Ever since I saw the movie, I have been annoying friends with a trivia question: "Who is the enemy? What organization owns this vessel?"

We ought to know.

I hadn't read any of the Clone Wars novels or comics (although I did see the Clone Wars cartoon series), yet I thought it was blindingly obvious whose ship Anakin and Obi Wan were on. It was protected by vulture droids, as seen in Episode I, and the crew consisted of battle droids and nemoidians as seen in Episodes II and III. I think anyone who paid attention to the previous movies would have understood exactly what was going on in the opening scenes without venturing into the Expanded Universe.

It seems to me that, rather than ask people who such-and-such is etc., the author needed to watch the previous two movies again before seeing Episode III.

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quote:
Originally posted by Timo:
A powerful computer coupled to a competent sensor system should do the trick just as well, I think.

Also, it cannot be that actual lightsaber OPERATION would be a Jedi privilege, since we saw the heathen Solo activate and use Luke's saber in TESB.

Timo Saloniemi

True, but it takes something away from the Jedi if any toaster with a particularly high spec can duke it out with them. Just my opinion.

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Well, they also have trouble with Droidikas.

I've always thought of Jedi's ability to see things before they happen as like "spider-sense." It gives them the ability to react faster because they actually start to react before something happens.

Grievous counters that by being super fast, as well as having the four arms, being able to climb walls, and run around like a hurricane. Not only do they have less time to react than with a normal person, but they've got a single coordinated attack coming at them from multiple angles. The aforementioned use of distractions helps him too.

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So it's really a sign of the dark times ahead when the Jedi can be replaced by machines? Yes, I think I'll use that as an explanation for Greivous, instead of him just being a cool idea for a toy...

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Now explain Jar-Jar as more than an excuse for a toy...

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quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:
Moreover, no, I don't like it when movies ((or novels, where this is far more prevalent)) do not function as complete stories on their own.

Not to be a smart-arse, but what about "The Empire Strikes Back", the film that I've seed described as having a "middle, a middle, and a middle"?

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Sol System
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It's a fair question. I don't think that a "complete story" means a story that isn't connected in any way to other stories. Beyond that I'm not sure what to tell you. I think it would fail my nebulous criterion if it ended before Han Solo was frozen. As it is, it poses a question "Can they escape the Empire?" and answers it: "No."

I mean, this is a thing that can annoy me, but it isn't the only thing going on in a story, you know?

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quote:
Originally posted by Marauth:
Now explain Jar-Jar as more than an excuse for a toy...

Well, you know those toads they used to lick back in the 60's..?

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quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:
Moreover, no, I don't like it when movies ((or novels, where this is far more prevalent)) do not function as complete stories on their own.

Not to be a smart-arse, but what about "The Empire Strikes Back", the film that I've seed described as having a "middle, a middle, and a middle"?
Star Trek III

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ST3 was a simple network bridge.

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Jason Abbadon
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ST III: Invalidating that whole "sacrifice" thing from the last movie

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