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Posted by Cargile (Member # 45) on :

It was bound to happen with all these lonely, jilted, or estranged people in here bickering back and forth about how one sex treats the other.

You know what I want? I want a woman I can discuss quantumchromodynamic with. I want a woman who can make me laugh by her wit and not a stiff finger in the ribs (well once in a while). I want a woman who likes to wear ankle length summer dresses on occasion. I want a woman who is interested in sexual experimentation after reading an associated article in Cosmo. I want a woman who thinks Star Trek is nice, but is not going to run me all over the state to a convention. I want a woman who knows that "a lot" is two words and spells it thusly. I want a woman who has her own computer so I don't have to share mine. I want a woman who doesn't think that a good night on the town is drinking beer and playing pool. And some more stuff, but the seven seconds has expired.

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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

I'm sorry, Cargile ... I'm Taken.

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Surely, if this is, promises are mine to give you.
mine to give........ "
~ Enya

Posted by Cargile (Member # 45) on :

I wouldn't worry about it Jubes. You don't seperate "a lot." hehe.

And hey. I thought this would be fun for all to do.

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

Too bad, Cargile. I WOULD run all over the state to go to conventions. (But I don't have to because I live in Los Angeles.

)

Let me try one of these.

1. I used to want a guy who likes Trek as much as I do, but now I just want one who has any sort of interest in Trek, the rest can be trained. }:-)
2. Someone who can remember dates. Not some obscure date like the anniversary of the first day we met, but something like my birthday.
3. Someone who can keep promises. It hurts me when people can't keep their word, because my busy friends and family members do it all too often. By promises I mean anything from "I'll call you at 6:00" to "Let's have dinner on Saturday".
4. One word: MATURITY.
5. Someone to whom I can freely talk about my feelings and vice-versa.
6. Someone who is in no way like my brother, who lies, cheats, and takes advantage of his family members who have no choice but to put up with him. God I'm glad I'm moving in a year.
7. Someone who doesn't care what I look like.
8. Someone who won't flirt with other women and pique my jealousy.
9. A guy who's actually sensitive, but not too much.
10.Someone who has generally similar interests and who doesn't "put up with things" so he can be with me.
11. Someone who can sing Broadway tunes with me (which would be nice, but not necessary).

The chances of my meeting this guy is probably a million to one.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Uh, I'd like a woman who's...alive, I guess.

But beyond that, a few qualifications.

TMBG. (And yes, this has a point. It's the principle behind my musical tastes, which make up a very large part of my life. So there.)
She has to be able to find jokes about Sartre and Descartes as equally amusing as jokes about Paul Muad'dib.
And also jokes about Vanilla Ice and other failed 80's icons.
In short, she needs an insane amount of useless pop culture trivia stored up.
It would also be good if she was a musician, 'cause then I'd have a band going, man!
Oh, yeah, honor, charity..."a mind that's not for rent to any god or government."

As far as physical features go, I have a thing for longish necks and long hair. Probably more than you needed to know. But I really like necks.

Whoops, forgot the most important part. She has to not be horrified of me. That's probably a major one.

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John Flansburgh

Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

Tora: AMEN!

Alright well... putting the fact that I'm taken aside, I'll put down a few of the things I look for in partners:

1. A sense of humor. The person i'm with has to both understand AND find Monty Python and other brit humour hilariously funny. Every single one of my partners has been able to quote the Holy Grail, or at least has seen it.
2. Maturity. I can't stand little boys and little girls. It drives me nuts. ACT YOUR AGE, for chrissakes!
3. Mutual interest in sci-fi and or fantasy things.
4. Sensitivity ... enough to understand why I cry over phone commercials, and why sensless death annoys me, and will let me cry on them without rolling their eyes.
5. A sense of fun. Okay, I love sitting on the net for hours on end, too... but I also enjoy getting out and doing things! I like people who are going to say "It's a nice day... let's go somewhere".
6. A small sense of adventure. Not enough to fly a plane without training to guam ...... just enough to say "Well, I don't know the way to Sasparilla, but lets get in a car and drive there... it'll be fun".
7. They don't have to be loud, or hyper like me.. but they do have to allow me to be loud and hyper when I get that way. I don't like people who look at me when i'm hyper and get all ashamed to be with me.
8. An appreciation for art, nature, and beautiful things. These things, along with music, are the most important things in the world to me, so they have to at least be appreciated .... NOT "tolerated"...
9. Someone who will give me flowers. I have not once in my life ever recieved flowers from anyone except my parents, and they were carnations when I graduated. I hate to be the cliche of girl, but..... roses are beautiful, they smell sweet, and can be hung upside down, dried, and re-used later as decorations. *L*
10. Someone I can just be with. Someone who doesn't mind just sitting together, talking.
11. Someone who tells my i'm beautiful, and means it, but will honestly TELL me when a dress or shirt doesn't compliment my figure or coloring..... I want an honest answer to "Does this look okay?"

So basically.... alot of them are like Tora's....
Of course, there are more, but I can't put words to them right now.
But there you go. And i'm not saying wether or not Charles has satisfied those qualifications or not..... so don't ask. :-P *L*

Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

I had the perfect woman... I don't have her anymore...

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Posted by Dani (Member # 57) on :

Well, I don't know much about quantumchromodynamics....sorry.

I want a guy who would never use a distracting background on one of his websites and can hand-code HTML at least as well as I can. I want a guy that would be willing to help me learn Linux, or is at least interested enough to fumble through it along with me. I want a guy who knows how to have fun, and thinks that sobriety is the best path to truly enjoying yourself. I want a guy who doesn't want to spend every waking moment in front of his computer, however. I want him to think I'm more important than setting up the new force feedback joystick he just bought to play his favorite game. I want a guy who'll still be there tomorrow, next week and maybe even 60 years into the future, although at this point I'd settle for a month from now...

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Posted by Dani (Member # 57) on :

Oh, I like flowers too...but not roses, please not roses.

I'd rather have a flowering houseplant, or my absolute favorite - sunflowers.

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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

Trying to figure out how to respond.

No country music, I hate it.
No smoking. I have my own tobacco problems.
Will be quiet. Most of the girls I know are chatterboxes. I am a low key person, and hate usless chatter.
Doesn't over do it with Drinking.

I actually know a nice quiet girl that lives close to me and likes me, but she drinks more then I can handle. We've been out twice, with a good bit of time between the two dates. The first time she put me off for two months, and then got mad when I stopped calling. The last time, she had a drink before I picked her up, we both had a drink wih dinner, after a movie, she wanted to go to a bar. I just don't like the bar scene anymore. I haven't asked her out since. She might shoot me if she saw me now.

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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

Tora: Then Lower your expectations. Why not go for something like 8 out of 11 or something.

I'll say again, nobody's perfect.

Re: Someone who has generally similar interests and who doesn't "put up with things" so he can be with me. If a guy does this, that means he's interested in you, and wants to know you more through your interests. Give the guy some credit!! (I must admit though, I don't think I have bent over to much of my gf's interests........)

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I can resist anything.......
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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

Dani: If he's as much a computer geek as you want him to be, you may have to settle for the fact that you aren't as important as his computer. But don't let that bother you or make you jealous..... since at least it's an inanimate object and not another woman. *L*

Posted by Dani (Member # 57) on :

Nah, not a total geek, as I've shown before I have a way of finding computer-knowledgeable boyfriends that are FAR from the average pocket-protecter wearing geeks.

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

Tahna: Sure, we can know each other as well as we want, but without having similar interests, we can barely be called friends. And a relationship cannot last if the partners are only lovers and not best friends.

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Posted by Cargile (Member # 45) on :

Sad thing is Tora, I probably am that guy in a million that you are looking for. I'm on the wrong side of the country. You got a good heart and a free spirit.

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Posted by Orion Syndicate (Member # 25) on :

Cargile's post has just reminded me of something, and I felt that I should share it, although I'm sure all of you know this anyway.

LOVE KNOWS NO BOUNDRIES!

I know that if I ever found someone that I fell completely in love with, I would never let distance get in my way. I would find her and do my absolute best to make it happen.

But since I can't really say that I've ever TRULY loved anyone before, I can only just live life and try to find the woman who I'm supposed to be with for the rest of my life.

....and oh, she'll probably have to endure my Trek addiction though.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Tora Ziyal defies the odds once again!

Well, fine... She hasn't quite met him, but...

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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

Don't get me started here. I'd just like to say that I actually match all Jubes' criteria.

Posted by Sunspot (Member # 77) on :

I want a girl who is around my age, anywhere from 14-16. Smart, funny, knows when to shut up and just enjoy the view. Someone who likes to sleep in until noon. *L* Pretty, but not full of herself. Likes outdoors and swimming, bike-riding. Likes to travel. Has friends in common with me..

Waitaminute, I already found my perfect women...

*L* I can't believe it, but I got a date on saturday with a girl from Illinois, possiblility of dating a cute girl a year lower than myself, and I'm great friends with a hot girl that I get to spend two weeks with this August.

Hey, i guess life doesn't suck! :-D

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Romanian President Nicolae Carpathia to Cameron Williams of the Global Weekly

Aunt Em-
Hate Kansas. Hate you. Took dog.
-Dorothy

Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

You go Sunspot!!

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Posted by LOA (Member # 49) on :

I don't want anyone..... but it's okay... 'cause I'm not bitter!

~LOA

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Posted by Sunspot (Member # 77) on :

LMAO @ Liz

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Romanian President Nicolae Carpathia to Cameron Williams of the Global Weekly

Aunt Em-
Hate Kansas. Hate you. Took dog.
-Dorothy

Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

*impressed*.. Now Lee, it's too bad you live in England, isn't it?

Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :

The thing between my gf and I is that we have very few interests in each other. She likes Celine Dion, I like U2 and Sarah MacLachlan. Her favourite sitcom in Mad About You, while mine is Home Improvement. I like Science fiction, she does not, but she doesn't hate it either. She DOES try to get into Science Fiction once in a while, and I don't find anything wrong with that.

The only real concern one should have concerning interests is if one person vehemently hates one or more of your interests. Then you're in trouble. Otherwise, tolerance may be the key to a good relationship.

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Except Temptation

Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

I LOVE Sarah McLachlan! ..... If you ever need any of her lyrics, I have a lyrics page somewhere, it just needs the URL's fixed from the great move.

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Liz: I'm relatively certain no-one's buying that anymore. Wait. That would assume they ever did in the first place... ;-)

Ironically enough, when I loaded this thread just now, I got a Macy's Bridal ad, the one w/ the two wedding rings. Odd...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Well, I get that "Sex IQ" ad, so I guess it's all part of a greater pattern.

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

I never saw the sex IQ ad.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Uhh... Which part of that aren't we buying anymore?

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Elim Garak: "Oh, it's just Garak. Plain, simple Garak. Now, good day to you, Doctor. I'm so glad to have made such an... interesting new friend today." (DS9: "Past Prologue")

Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

There's a Sex IQ Add?! ....

Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Yes, there is indeed.

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Elim Garak: "Oh, it's just Garak. Plain, simple Garak. Now, good day to you, Doctor. I'm so glad to have made such an... interesting new friend today." (DS9: "Past Prologue")

Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

It's BS.

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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

I'LL be the judge of that!

Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

*gets that ad, too*

Jubes: http://oz.valueclick.com/redirect?host=h0093783&banner=a0012218

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Elim Garak: "Oh, it's just Garak. Plain, simple Garak. Now, good day to you, Doctor. I'm so glad to have made such an... interesting new friend today." (DS9: "Past Prologue")

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

I think it should be stated, after having read the above posts, that there are many different kinds of "Maturity." People need to be more specific.

Does "Maturity" mean being able to pay the bills on time? (Which I can)

or being able to communicate meaningfully about the relationship? (sure)

or being able to raise a kid? (pshaw, not!)

or always being able to resist the impulse to play "Lurch" after saying "Walk this way...?" (Not me)

or not going gaa-gaa over the hottie next door? (I have that ability, realy!)

or not pressing the "pause" key while watching starships slug it out on DS9 on the VCR? (Erm.. no)

or not picking your nose where anyone can see? (Yeh)

or having evolved past "head games?" (I think so)

or what?

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Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

Too bad for you all, I'm taken. Elsewise I fit just about any criteria. However, I think that a complete opposite (like my fiancee) who will just let me be me, as I will let her be her is just fine. Okay, not so complete of an opposite, but we have a lot to argue about (like she thinks all my friends are "F***ed" in the head for enjoying Monty Python)

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Posted by Dani (Member # 57) on :

I just have to say that I love U2, and Sarah McLachlan is my favorite female musician. She's awesome. And Lee, if it means anything to you, you seem pretty mature to me. *LOL*

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Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

That's fab, I'm listening to U2 at this very moment. Of course I have all their CD's along with some of the videos. U2 rules!!!

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Posted by JazzJunky on :

Heh...Liz, I know you don't want anyone for a fact....but you're bitter about it. *winks*

Ahhh....personal ads, eh? I think I'm going to end up miserable and alone because I think my standards are too high. I guess I should state a few:

Intelligence, beauty, the ablility to communicate, and a great sense of humor. I like people who can think metaphorically, and people who like to goof around and make idiots out of themselves in public. I want to be able to express my opinions and passions about music and art and life to the person I love, without feeling self conscious. I want to be able to watch Movies and talk about them later...not dissect them...but just talk about 'em and enjoy seeing them with someone. I want someone who will accept that a major part of my life will be theatre...and that it may take up a lot of time...but it doesn't make them second best. I want to be able to cuddle up and watch a movie, or just cuddle up and talk, and not have to make every waking moment devoted to sex (although sex is a definite factor in compatability. *grins* I love it, as long as it isn't the focus of our relationship). Anyway...the most important thing...the thing I want the most...is...I want to fall in love. I want to be deliriously happy...

I want the movies.

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Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

Well sorry Jazz, but I'm taken. I however love the Brak thing, but Moltar rules.

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

Well, in responce to First of Two, let me give my definition of "maturity".

Maturity means...

--knowing that all people are equal AND treat them that way, this includes all ethnicities, sexual orientation, religion, and appearances (i.e.,beautiful or ugly, fat or thin).
--being humble enough to see things from other people's point of view, and if you can't, being humble enough to admit it.
--able to admit that you *might* be wrong in an argument.
--able to, in a debate, look at other people's argument objectively.
--able to admit mistakes, faults, and failures (the way my brother doesn't).
--knowing that your own needs might come first, but also caring for the welfare of those around you (including pedestrians, animals, and trees. Okay, rats and cockroaches excepted).

That's all I can think of at the moment.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Ziyal: Didn't I use that sig a while back? I think that's actually the first time I've seen anyone use a sig that I had previously. I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Hm... *L*

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

Er...I picked one out of several that I liked from the Quotable Star Trek. Didn't know you used it before. *L*

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Well Cargile, I think I know the woman you are looking for...too bad she's my ex-girlfriend and that you could go to jail if you start a sexual relationship with a 17 year old...

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Posted by LOA (Member # 49) on :

Jaz: Hunny, I'm not bitter.... you know that JUST as well as I do! Just wanted to REMIND you of that.... and since I'm posting anyway, I'd like ot point something out to you that I find oddly frightening: I seem to fit almost ALL of the criteria (the sex part is that only thing that throws me off... I don't want any.) Isn't that scary though that *I* would fit all of your criteria??? *grin* no wonder we're such good friends....

But don't go getting any ideas... *shudder* Not in a million years...! :P

~LOA

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Posted by JazzJunky on :

*shudders* I wholeheartedly concur...never in a million years. You know, that is quite frightening that you fit all of my criteria.....hmmm....do you happen to have a twin out there? Or...maybe just a good friend that's like you? What am I saying, I know most of your friends...heh heh...oh well, life goes on. *winks*

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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

*meets all Jazz's criteria* Interesting.

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Posted by HMS White Star (Member # 174) on :

But Dani it is impossible to look any argument objectively. Personal opinon always colors one's point of view, perhaps you can look at an argument with relative objectivity, or perhaps keep an open mind, but total objectivity is impossible.

*Getting off his high horse*

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

[Gets on high horse.]

Well, I, for one, am completely objective 100% of the time!

[Slips getting off high horse and falls upon horse exhaust.]

"EEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww!"

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

White Star: Uh...Dani didn't write that, I did. And I am well aware that it isn't possible to be completely objective all the time. In fact, it's next to impossible to possess all of those qualities all the time, but maturity is being consciously AWARE that you should be that way, even when you're not, and TRY to do so.

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Posted by Cargile (Member # 45) on :

Cripes! I pass Tora's Maturity checklist. Now if I could only act my age! haha.

Then again, any woman entering a relationship with me must put up with my musical tastes, tastes that are oriented around metal. She must also put up with my occasional need to make noise--loud noise--on my guitar.

Did I actually use the word "cripes"?

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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

reminded me of Ren & Stimpy.

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Posted by HMS White Star (Member # 174) on :

Sorry my bad

, hell even an agent of Choas is allowed a mistake or two, right.

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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

One cannot be a good agent of chaos if one doesn't make chaotic mistakes.

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Posted by Dani (Member # 57) on :

I was WONDERING what I said about objectivity...*o_O* Don't try to confuse me, it's still early enough in the day to tell me I said something and I'd probably beleive you. *LOL*

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Posted by HMS White Star (Member # 174) on :

No Dani you didn't say anything about objectivity, what I was referring to was this statement in Tora's post:

"able to, in a debate, look at other people's argument objectively"

So, Dani, you didn't say it, "I am sorry" (well not really ).

"Look what you have done now."

"Yes, master."

"Well Mr. HMS White Star, so called agent of Chaos you did again, instead of causing chaos on the internet by pointing out everyone's mistakes, you make your own, what do have say about yourself."

"I am sorry."

"Good now go clean your room and think about want you have done wrong."

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

I meet all of Tora's criteria EXCEPT the first, in that I because I believe that all people are inherently different, I do not believe all people are inherently equal. For example, I cannot bench-press 200 lbs. Therefore I do not equal someone who can.

I do, however, believe all people are deserving of a chance. (Not I said A chance, not a SECOND chance.) I never hate someone I don't know personally, and I generally will not discriminate against people on the basis of any of the qualities expressed above, with two exceptions:

1.) I judge people based on their behaviour. If someone has behaved deplorably in the past, I tend to expect them to behave deplorably in the future, or at least to be more susceptible to succumb to that temptation. However, I tend to forget this after a while, and end up treating them normally. If they DO succumb, though, I deem my judgement adequate.

2.) By my nature, I tend to treat the very religious in the same manner in which I would treat a child who believes the bogeyman is under his bed. (I've looked under the bed, and there wasn't anything _I_ could see.) I consider this somewhat of a failing, and am working to improve it. There's nothing inherently bad about believers. Not in small numbers, anyway.

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Posted by Coddman (Member # 10) on :

All I have to say is, 'Opposites Attract'. *L* Ryan and me are completely different people. We have almost no common intrests save for Star Trek. *LOL* But somehow we've stayed together for 1.5 years. *pause* Hmm - Perhaps it is a relationship of convenience. We are relatively content, don't want to go through the hassle of breaking up, don't want to go through the hassle of trying to find another partner, so we just stay together. *LMAO* Probably the only relationship of it's kind . . .

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Relationship inertia? Nah. It's exceedingly common.

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

First: In the first criterion I meant that all people should be TREATED equally and not judged by who they "appear" to be. And I have nothing against judging people by who they are and how they behave. Hey, I agree with you about religious people, but I don't assume that ALL religious people are like that.

Coddman: Let's just say it doesn't always work that way and leave it at that.

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--Picard to Data, "In Theory"

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Tora: yeah that's my problem. I KNOW they're not all like that, rationally in my head I know that.

But as soon as I hear a phrase like "The Lord Jesus Christ" (especially two times in the same paragraph, which I hear a LOT) come out of a "layman's" mouth, (and he's not cussing,) or worse, "literal creationism," all my overrides kick in, the screens go up, the blast doors close, and I go into "dealing with diminished capacity" mode.

I'm trying to stop thinking like that, at least for the sake of my girlfriend, whose family is Catholic (although she thinks most of them are as nuts as I think they are.)

It's hard though. In the past year I had to deal with a woman who was mad there were no Bibles in the Children's room (there were, she was just too dumb to read the card catalog to find them), two strict creationists who were mad about the abundance of books on dinosaurs, and one guy who said, and I quote, "you know that Star Trek episode, Preemptive Strike? Well, that's what the Russians are gonna do this June 20th." (I found out later this guy had been "let go" from his teaching position for preaching from "Revelations" in the classroom.)

So is it any wonder?

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"When we turn our back on our principles, we stop being human." -- Janeway, "Equinox"

Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

a lot!!! Good man there 1st o 2.

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Posted by Cargile (Member # 45) on :

hehehehehe

As if Russia can afford a preemptive strike.

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"I came upon a wedding, good old families had contribed.
Bethlaham the bride-groom, Babylon the bride.
Great Babylon was naked, ah she stood there trembling for me.
And Bethlaham enflamed us both, like a shy one at some orgy.
And when we fell together, all our flesh was like a veil.
But I had to draw aside to see the serpent eat its tail.
Some women wait for Jesus, and some women wait for Cain.
So I hang upon my alter, and I hoist my axe again.
And I take the one that finds me back to where it all began.
When Jesus was the honeymoon, and Cain was just a man.
And we read from pleasant Bibles, that are bound in blood and skin,
But the wilderness is gathering all its children back again."
excerpt from the song "Last Year's Man"
By Leonard Cohen.