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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

...for a job at the branch library that's opening six blocks from my house in a month or two! "Library Page", basically meaning I shelve books. But working in a library is something I've always thought I'd enjoy, and $6.80 an hour isn't bad money for my first job.

Wish me luck...

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

I work in the school library for one of my class periods as a Student Aide. I work the check out desk half the period and sit on my ass the other half. I use it as a study hall type period, but where I can actually talk and get up and move around and all that jazz.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Shit, I got $4.50 an hour for my first job ... but that was back in '94, at Subway Sandwiches & Salads in Columbia, MD.

I make $5.15 an hour these days ... plus mileage and tips, so I make anywhere from $15 - $25 an hour, 'pending on how people are tippin'

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Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :

Kick butt Omega...but don't try to direct any of the little kiddies toward any books by Pat Buchanan.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Within the context of an alternate universe, the following exchange might occur:

"Pat Robertson can write?"

"No no, he can right."

"But that doesn't make any sense."

"Bite me, longhair."

Fortunately, we do not live in such a universe.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

We can't afford to hire a Page, so much of our shelving is either done by our librarians or unpaid volunteers.

Needless to say, it can be a mess.

Just wait until they ask you to shelfread, Omega. If you're at all susceptible to vertigo, dizziness, or anything caused by moving up and down while trying to read, stock up on medication NOW.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

What's shelfreading? Making sure all the books are in the right places?

I've never paid any attention to Buchanan, so I think I'll let Sol field that one...

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Have I been working at the wrong library or something? I've never heard anyone refer to the shelvers as "pages", and I've never even heard the word "shelfread" at all...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Buchanan? Buchanan? #*(#$#! From now on, I'm sticking to Upper Volravian politics.

Speaking of which, Minister Orgodorcxvsic is a big idiot.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

shelfreading

1. the process of going through the books on the shelves one by one, making sure that they are in the proper Dewey or Library of Congress order on the shelves, and arranged neatly, from 001 A1 to 999.999 Z999.

2. A mind-numbing, headache-inducing, largely futile activity, not to be confused with a similar activity known as 'trying to justify support for Gore.'

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Sounds like fun.

So how often am I expected to do this?

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Sol: Yeah, but at least his policies on the Dzolgors are better than Chancellor Yarbletnip's...

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

First: Ah... We call that "revising".

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Strange. We call "revising"

1. The act of going over stuff that you previously learnt in lectures.

2. The thing you do the night before an exam. Usually in conjunction with the words "shit! I don't know any of this stuff! What the hells a 'pro...grammer..sanwhich?' anyway?"

And we call "chips", "crisps". Crazy.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Liam: Well, I don't think anyone here calls studying "revising", but it doesn't really matter, anyway. This definition of "revise" only applies in the library. Just like saying "check out that book" in the library is in no way related to saying "check out that girl's..." Er, well... You get the idea...

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Arse?

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

You say arse ... I say ass ...

Why is that?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Because neither of you are leg men?

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

I do prefer the arse, but you can't dismiss the leg. They're joined at the hip, so to speak.

(I really can't believe I said that. That was trully the worst joke I've ever made, ever.)

Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

Oh, I thought a job at the library would be cool, too. Until I got one. I work at the East Asian Library at USC. I do book-shelving, T-taping, sitting at the circulation desk (where I usually get a second task b/c there's nearly zero traffic), filing records, and every other monotonous chore. All the books are either in Chinese, Japanese, or Korean, so none of them really interest me (I can read Chinese, but I'd rather not). Shelving's boring. Anything to do with records is boring. T-tape gets boring after a while. Call numbers give me a headache. If I didn't have work study, I'd be outta here in a sec. However, I tend to gravitate toward the arts and I need variety. I don't mean to say it's a bad job, just that it's a bad job for me.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Isn't it a bit of a pain for USC to keep their library in East Asia?

Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

I think Liam's joke was brilliant. In fact... *glances downwards*

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Well, I just got a letter today. I'll be going to the main branch Tuesday to fill out forms and take a test or two...

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

A test? You have to take a test to be a shelver? Does your area have an inordinately large number of people who can't recite the English alphabet, or comprehend the decimal system?

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Well, it IS Tennessee.....

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Well, you have to be sure, you know. Since the majority of young people in the state went to public school...

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

...and will undoubtedly pass the part of the test dealing with Social Interaction.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Heh. I would have failed Social Interaction, in high school. Especially after I came to the realization that my peers were, in general, nincompoops with a serious dependency on irrelevant behaviors including athleticism, 'fashion', and 'malling,' who mindlessly believe everything the TV stations/churches/other nincompoops tell them to.

But in college I got over that attitude a bit and learned to deal with people. Now I work with the public on a daily basis and only sneer at their general idiocy when I'm safely at home. Or on here.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

quote:
, nincompoops with a serious dependency on irrelevant behaviors including athleticism, 'fashion', and 'malling,' who mindlessly believe everything the TV stations/churches/other nincompoops tell them to.

So, it isn't just here. Hm.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

I'm posting this from the computer terminal at the new Edmondson Pike branch Nashville Library!

Don't have a job here yet, but maybe they'll contact me soon. Oh, well. I'm happy just to have the library six blocks from my house.

This place is beautiful!

Smells good too...

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Spend too much time there, and it won't smell like anything anymore, even if you try...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

It's been 55 days. Is that a normal response time for libraries seeking employees? Anyone? The only libraries I've ever been to have either had the same two employees since roughly the Mesozoic, or grew their employees in tubes.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Well, since "library page" isn't exactly an essential job, and the branch just opened today, I'm not surprised they haven't contacted me. However, I'll be going back in a day or two to drop off "The Cardinal of the Kremlin," and I'll ask if they've filled all the page positions when I do.

On the brighter side of things, I did have the honor of being the first person at this branch to pay an overdue fine (only six days, so don't smite me, Rob), and I found the first computer bug.

Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Well, this may help explain it, too. Unless their website hasn't been updated in way too long, the branch doesn't have a manager yet! And of course, since it's the manager that contacts and interviews the pages...

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Then how did they hire the other employees?

I don't know how libraries do it, but often, hiring for new stores/branches will be given to the managers of other branches, or to a district manager to do. Most places allow (senior) assistant managers to hire, too.

My .02 cents.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

"...'library page' isn't exactly an essential job..."

Didn't we already determine that "library page" is some sort of alternate term for a shelver? Trust me, it is essential. How long do you think a library will last w/o someone to put the books where they belong? For one thing, only about one in fifty library patrons even has the slightest idea how to put a book back in the same place after they take it off a shelf...

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Aackk! Without a shelver, it would be complete anarchy! Riots would break out, and the Librarian would probably end up breaking her hip, and then yelling at everyone to stop eating. Of course, it wouldn't be any fun for the three old dudes who come in every morning to read the paper, because they're too cheap to actually buy a subscription, and they'd get mad at the Librarian and end up mashing her face in to the copier. And as if that's not enough, the computer probably wouldn't register the middle aged woman who comes in every day and takes out five hundred thousand Harlequin romance novels, and she'd probably end up crying loudly, disturbing the wierd dirty man who sits at the farthest corner, reading the same RAMA book over and over again...

It'd be utter chaos.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

I mean it's not essential in the sense that a new library from which nothing at all has been checked out can survive without one for a few days.

But, hey, anarchy's cool, too.

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

UM: No, but there'd be a lot of books lying around on the tables, chairs, floor, &c.

And the scary part is that there really are people like those ones you talked about there... *L*

Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

A shelfer is not non-essential, it's just easily replaceable.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

You know, some advice, Omega:

My first couple jobs, after I turned in the app, I went back in and talked to the assistant manager or manager, to make sure they'd know me, so when they came across my app, they'd say, "hey! I know this guy..."

Couldn't really tell you if it worked, though -- I did that with about five different jobs (Subway, Blockbuster, Waldenbooks, Giant Food, and something else), and I got Subway and Blockbuster (and boy did they suck).

All my other jobs I've been hired on the spot. Sam Goody's, Domino's, Papa Johns (the later two hired me over the phone without an interview, "Hi, this is Marc, the manager at Domino's, got your app, yeah, why don't you come in tommorow at 10, okay? Great.")

Just some friendly advice.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

I was actually in the library this evening (picking up "The Bear and the Dragon"), and I asked the lady at the desk whether there were any page positions left open. She said that there was one left, and that she was, in fact, the one who looks over the applications. I told her my name, and smiled REAL big, like.

Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Oh, and I'd love to know where you got that Bush quote. I'm pretty darned sure he never said anything remotely resembling that.

Checking your facts is always a good idea, Jeff.

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

unless it's satire..... a funny..... a joke.... a witty possible statement from a mis-spoken fellow..... or, then again, he may have said it.....

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Well, you have to take into account the fact that the only publicly available records of communication between Bush and Gore were the three debates. I think I would have noticed something that badly mangled.

And if it's going to become so hilarious to attribute to a man statements that he never said, just because he's misspoken once or twice, then everyone becomes a legitimate target. You, me, Dick Gephardt, everyone. And if THAT happens, the humor looses all meaning.

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Oh, I do get razed for a few misstatements I've made, and some that I haven't but could make. If done in small doses it should remain funny, not often or it would lose its humor.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Omega,

Two things.

One -- good for you! I hope you get the job. Luck'll tell, but a bribe is always a good idea ...

Two -- Is this the flameboard? NO. If you want to start screaming at me over a quote G.W. Bush said (during one of the debates, wasn't it?), then either EMAIL me, or take it to the flameboard. Now, how about we move the discussion to the flameboard before Sol has to intervene, okay?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

And let's not forget that I am CRAZED with holiday spirit and craziness at the moment. Unpredictable like a fox on the space shuttle.

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

So that's where Monty disappeared to...

:-)

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Well, surprise, surprise, surprise. I just got a call from the branch manager. She said that the lady downtown had just faxed her my application. Apparently, I got lost in the system. It's a good thing I e-mailed her to ensure that my application wasn't thrown out arbitrarily after the stated six month guarentee of it being kept in the system. I have an interview tomorrow at two o'clock. Patience is a virtue...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

At this rate, you might actually be working by October.

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Posted by The Talented Mr. Gurgeh (Member # 318) on :

Good luck with the interview. Just stay calm and expand on every question they ask you. As long as you don't talk about the Bible

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Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :

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expand on every question they ask you.

But not too much, mind, or you'll suffocate them in that tiny room where the interview'll be held.

Good luck - I'm job-hunting as well.

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Posted by MIB on :

WOW! Good luck man! Now that's a job I wish I can have!

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Well, the interview went well. Turns out that this position was just created, and that's why it's open. This library should have five pages, and only had three. The fourth was just authorized by the HR department, but they have yet to fill it. They held the interviews last week, but thanks to some timely e-mails to the Director of Human Resources, my application got faxed to the branch where it should have been all along, apparently with a DIRECTIVE to interview me. Seemingly, I did well on the test. Meaning I can read. Go figure.

Anyway, she seemed decently impressed. When asked what I thought the sum of the job was, I said that I was basically to do small tasks so as to save the time of more qualified persons. She liked that. She also liked my answer to the question about what I'd do if I was scheduled to come in to work tomorrow, and was offered some tickets to [insert event here]. I said I'd take the tickets and sell them on eBay, then come to work.

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Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :

Ah ha! Some useful interview tips - cheers!

Omega - hope you get the job! From the sound of it you probably have, what with those cool, smart answers.

So that's why all the lad bothered to go to the library - to look at the arses and legs (and no doubt other parts) of the girls. And I just thought that you went to the library to look at books - mmm, some changes are in order for my next visit to the library!

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

Congrats, Omega. I just got out of my library job when the semester ended. What a relief.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

By my inactivity in this thread, I'm sure you can tell I didn't get the job. Well, the nifty little thing is that out of those four positions they had filled, three of the workers left at the end of the summer. So I had another interview today. Same questions, same answers, though a little snappier this time. I also seem to have made a good impression on one librarian during my frequent visits to pick up books, 'cause she put in a good word for me. They actually gave me a tour of the back room, so it sounds like I did pretty well. They process the paperwork, and send it all downtown. Then a background check is done, and if they like me, I get a call from the branch some time late next week offering me the job. Then I call downtown and accept it. I go up and sign papers at some point. If all goes well, I may have a job in about three weeks. Oh, and they seem to have raised the salary to $7.47 an hour. Not bad money.

Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :

Kewl.

You got it, trust me. When they start giving you the fixings about the back room and stuff, your probability rate has risen to about 90%.

Congrats. Better late than never.

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

*wonders if the background check should include perusing a complete anthology of Omega's Flare posts*

Good luck, BTW.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

I just got a call from Karen at the library. It took 'em a month, but they finally finished my background check. They failed to discover my carefully-conceiled criminal record, and they just offered me the job. Coolness.

Now I'm supposed to call up the human resources department, tell them I want the job, and go downtown and sign stuff. Then I set up a time for my first day on the job. Looks like my likely times are eight hour shifts on Tuesdays and Thursdays, with a few more hours thrown in somewhere during the week.

I will soon be employed! Yay!

Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :

Carefully

Concealed

Criminal

Record?

I'd better get outta here.

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

*tries to think up some pun where CCC is turned into KKK*

*fails*

Posted by G.K Nimrod (Member # 205) on :

Oh you normands and your subtle schemes!!!

So, I'll wager there's a whole new debrief system for librarians nowadays, to keep those messy incidents from happening again. Those infuriating dogears...

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Just as an aside, a couple of days ago I applied for the job of Library Technician at California State University of Pennsylvania's Washington campus.

(Yes, that's right, California, Washington, Pennsylvania. Both 'California' and 'Washington' are towns in PA.)

IF I get the job, which I am eminently -and possibly over- qualified for, I stand to see a MINIMUM pay increase (over what I'm making right now in the Public Library) of TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS a year! AIIGH!

I'm more than qualified.
I have experience.
I have a Master's.
I may have an aneurysm.

Of course, I just today had to fill out and send back one of those 'diversity' forms, which is the new way of saying 'we don't want any non-veteran, non-disabled white males to get this job if we can possibly help it.'

(That's a joke. Since the thing was optional, if I really believed that, I wouldn't have filled it out.)

Oh, if only I could conclusively PROVE that I'm 1/64 Iroquois, as my mother's genealogical research seems to show... I could maybe get tribal affiliation.

If I get this job, I may have to take it as conclusive evidence that there IS a higher power looking out for me...

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Why a higher power? Seems to me, you earned your college degree, and you've sweated away years as Chief Librarian In Charge Of Secret Hidden Army. To be bluntly honest, I don't see a higher power in there anywhere.

Although I do believe in "fate." Or, on the reverse, "dumb luck."

Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Hey! I'm 1/64 Cherokee!

...

Hang on.

Does that mean we have to kill each other?

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Well, I'm of purely white European descent, so I guess that means I get to wipe both of you out, right? :-)

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

I'm 1/4 Irish Catholic, and a resident of London, which means I keep having to put car bombs in my own car. It's getting very annoying.

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

I bet your insurance company loves you.

Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :

quote:
(Yes, that's right, California, Washington, Pennsylvania. Both 'California' and 'Washington' are towns in PA.)

Not to mention a charming hamlet nestled in the Appalachians called 'Jersey Shore'.

Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

And the new Playboy playmate attending Indiana University of Pennsylvania...yes, in Indiana, Pennsylvania.

Re: racial make up...I'm part German Jew. You think Brits have a lock on self-loathing? I keep--- :::blinks & thinks for a moment::: Wait. I think for once, I'll refrain from making that joke. I get the feeling that Holocaust humor ins't appreciated by all.

Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Ethnic makeup...

Scots
German
Irish
English
Welsh
Polish
Iroquois

So for conflicts, you've got
Scots vs. English
Irish vs. English
Welsh vs. English
Germans vs. English
Germans vs. Polish
Irish vs. Each Other
Scots vs. Each Other
Everybody (white settlers) vs the Iroquois
Probably a few I've missed.

My ancestors have been killing each other for centuries. No wonder I've got a temper problem.

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

The thing about the British vs English groups is that it's one way. The Scottish hate us, we don't hate them. We don't love them or anything, it's more that we don't really care.

If there's a football match on, and England are playing, a lot of Scottish people will watch it, and cheer on whoever is playing against England. If the Scottish are playing, the English will watch it and support them. Not with much entusiasm, but we won't want them to lose.

The Welsh hate everyone. Apparently, they are the most isolationist and racist country in the UK. At least according to the Welsh people I know.