Was wondering if anyone else here played. I know Charles "Sheep" Capps used to. A friend of mine got me hooked -- wow! This is so much better then GoldenEye or even Rainbow Six.

I usually play on the "Smash or Be Smashed" server (Look out for Po'BabyJesus and Wake -- they're both friends of mine, and they're good). So far, I've been unable to get the game running on my computer. I'm missing a "dll" or "dlls" file -- but, my friend is DLing it and will install it while I'm away on vacation. Once I get my cable modem installed (sometime either this week or next), I'll be ready to kick ass full time (instead of just borrowing time on my friend's machine). If anyone was on that server last night, I was Malnurtured Sow.

So far my skill isn't quite that good. I still get killed way more then I cap some baddies, but I'm improving. Got two CTs in a row last night -- and was I excited!!! So, I am improving. I'd have to say my favorite weapons are the MP-5 Navy, the M-16 (silenced), and the great terrorist-only gun, the AK-47.

Anyhoo, when I get the game working (I should be online fairly regularly come this weekend), look for me on "Smash or Be Smashed" as "Malnurtured Sow" or, perhaps, "PoBabyPope" or something along those lines.

And look out for Wake
 

1. Shoot in "burst".
2. Neel down when shooting.
3. Aim for legs for first shot, as the "jump" will move the trajectory to the head usually around third shot, this works well especially for AK.
4. AWP is a newbie cannon, be a man, use a scout.
5. always checks corner, walk when you're the last one around.
 

I've had considerable luck blasting people away just by pointing the AK-47 or MP-5 at them. The best thing I've been able to do (as far as aiming goes) is aim the top hair of the sight at a person's chest and squeeze away (although, I did get someone in the head while firing random shots to cover some teammates -- a pleasant surprise)*.

*I'm still new at level names ... I'll try and describe it. Terrorists start out in a large, two or three story parking garage, with raised concrete levels at both ends of the garage. There's a small back door, and a large garage door at front. CTs (counter-terrorists) can also enter through an air vent on the roof. The head shot was on the upper level (not the roof) -- two CTs had entered through the airvent, and were in that closed off "office" on the back wall. One of my fellow terrorists was heading along the concrete walkway to engage them, and I was firing random shots (too far to aim with any hope of precision for the amount of distraction I wanted to cause) when -- boom! Malnurtured Cow got a kill!

You can fire single rounds? I wasn't aware of that -- but then, I do largely use the MP-5 Navy, although I'm rather taken with the surpressed M-16 (which, come to think of it, does fire single, doesn't it?)

I usually don't have time to kneel unless I'm camping down some dark corner. I've gotten rather good at checking corners when rounding unfamiliar territory, and I usually try and make sure I've got an HE grenade (flashbangs and smoke suck) to pitch at the enemy in the initial stages of the game at a likely "contact" point (funny story: was playing last night, the guy in front of tossed an HE through a pair of doors on one of those "Aztec" levels, followed by one thrown by me -- I registered two kills. Woohoo!)

What is an AWP? What's a "scout"? Is the AWP that bullpup gun?

Blue: try a game on "Smash or be Smashed." I think you'll like it. But don't use any cheat programs -- you'll be booted. There's almost always a clan member online (and Wake is particularly vicious).
 

Single shot from automative weapons is possible, but when I said "burst", I meant less then five round.

And to avoid you cheating or other cheating, get Punk Buster from www.punkbuster.com, some server requires that each player to have one, and this program basiclly makes all cheats useless.

With the kneeling part, you'll feel uneasy at first trying the manuver out, but it gets better with time, and when you get good at it, it helps alot!
 

All I meant was, when I'm kneeling and kill someone, I'm usually "camping" -- I find a spot (preferably dark), crouch down, and open fire when someone runs past.

Sadly, so far, when I'm running, or stepping through a sliding door, and a "baddie" is right in front of me, I squeeze the trigger first and hope for the best ... every now and then, I'll get two guys with one burst. Very rarely, however.

Once I get Counter-Strike working (my friend Mike is getting the file I need and installing it while I'm here in Arlington on vacation) and my cable modem installed (eight days!!!) my skill level will be improving greatly.

I'm rambling again, aren't I? Speaking of which, I'm trying to figure out what identity I want to use ... (BTW: "Smash or be Smashed" server can be located through www.gamespy.com).

So far, I'm considering:

Malnurtured Sow (which I've used before on a friends' PC)
MeGotBeer
JeepThang

I'm leaning towards the first one.
 

look for HomeLAN Fed and HomeLAN Alliance servers. Theres like 40 of them.

I play under my handle, Proteus on the Millitia, Dust or Italy only servers.

HomeLAN features stat tracking as well.

Weapon / kills
m4a1 / 229
awm / 161
p90 / 98
ak47 / 77
sg552 / 61
mp5navy / 55

Total Frags: 681
Total Deaths: 413
Total Minutes Played: 697.31

[ August 12, 2001: Message edited by: Wes1701E ]

Isn't camping the absolute worst thing you can do in these games? Doesn't it make you less popular than Omega at Democrat fund raiser? And isn't it the thing sissies do?
 

I don't know why we didn't discuss it earlier, JeffBeer. And it IS the superior halflife mod, no doubt about it. The levels, the textures, the weapons, choreography of the models...
I mostly play through GameSpy Arcade, on swedish servers because the ping is higher. I have no real problem playing in other countries but if one finds a good server with good admins and such it's hard to leave. I normally rotate through about 15 favourites.
I very seldom have problems with cheaters or l33t geeks, mostly they just abuse lol, roflmao and such (wich is especially annoying if spoken by swedes on a swedish server). If someone is childish and unfair I just pull together my hombres and we shoot the guy into so much swiss cheeze. TeamKillers are Zero Tolerance and are crucified and banned where I go, so that's usually not a problem either.
AWM/AWP has been restricted on some servers, a smart measure actually. There were too many incidents where 50% of BOTH teams got the AWP and sniped and camped throughout the entire match, very boring.

I don't play nearly as often as I used to, plus the vacations have "rehabilitated" me somewhat from computers, and that often help the gaming skills. If you play intensely for five weeks straight the scores tend to go down. Take a break for three weeks and the comeback will be blissful!
If nothing else happens I'll go online tonight, usually between 14:00 to 18:00 EST (midnight in sweden), maybe I'll track down that place of yours and pay you a visit.
 

The game was developed by Harmless games and the makers of Subspace and was later purchased by Sony. It takes a few hours to get the game down but once your learn the alt + movement keys is the newbie strafe combo and that you can customize your key config playing becomes way more fun and you will start 0wning the newbies

If your gonna start playing I suggest starting out in the Skirmish Mechinized Zone , they have big tanks there so you can take retribution on the n00bs that kill you while your still learning

There are basiclly 3 types of games in Infantry played on differant maps

CTF , Capture the Flag

Skirmish , Capture and Hold Stratigic locations

Future Sports , Gravball & Boomball X basiclly its Killing and sports combined to please all the l33t killers

Each of These Zones have differant maps and gameplay options

If you want to learn more check out http://www.infantryzone.com or http://www.nmebase.com

About Cheaters ... Infantry is almost cheat proof , mostly the only cheat is lag , which if you have to much of , the server boots you off within seconds
 

But the word "camper" is way overused. A camper in the true sense of the word seeks out one or two spots and stays there the rest of the match, shooting anyone who runs past.

If a player fights conventionally, then spots a person chasing him, he can find a place to stop, turn around and pounce on the unsuspecting pursuer from a chosen angle. You can be called "camper" for doing that, even if you were running while shooting, but it was a tactical choice you made on the move, against an opponent you knew would kill you if you had just charged in on him. That isn't camping. Nevertheless, it should be used with temperance or you can get a bad reputation for always avoiding direct action, camping or no camping.
Of course, the concept and strategy of camping shouldn't be confused with universal rookie attitude and beginner telltales. New players always feel more exposed and threatened than senior players, which is why people should have more patience with "newbies", they were newbies too one time.

There is of course the exceptions that prove the rule. One guy in my clan has that little problem, even though he's a seasoned pro. He simply chooses to wait for the enemy to come to him many times and lets his team do the dying.
Also, it seems to happen whenever I am in the opposite mood and want to "rush" the enemy camps. So then I plow through them, take three or four people with me before someone with 100 in health beats my 20. Then my friend walks in as the last team member alive, with 100 in health and full mag, and shoots the rest of the enemies who of course counted on all the enemy players leaving the base in the beginning of the match.

The difference between CounterStrike and most "frag" games is that the objective should come first, even in clan wars. It's easy to fall back in the hunter/killer role, but the point is to achieve the objectives, even if you're the last team member alive. No, especially if you're the last team member.

An extenuating circumstance to "camping" is when you are outnumbered and/or alone, in the middle or late point of the match. Then you have to use some strategy if you want to win and live. Surprise is still the number one tactical advantage, but there are other ways of achieving it than sitting down and waiting.
The biggest flaw in "camping" is that you are immobile while your prey can run around, pin you down and wait for backup.

And now that I've smeared all that shit in your collective faces I will take my own advice and enter the fray! Qa'Pla!
 

Do a searth through GameSpy.com for "Smash or Be Smashed." And beware of Wake

I should be playing mucho mucho come a week tommorow. Cable modem -- go!

I don't camp a whole lot, but when I do a lot of it is because I am still a newbie at the game. Some times I camp because we've eliminated all but one of the opposing team, and I don't want to get sniped by the last guy alive (although, I recall fondly when the CT team I was on camped as a unit behind, on, and around stacked boxes at the top of a stairwell and blasted the Terrorists into tiny little pieces -- I had an MPNavy, I think most of the others had silenced M-16s. After this happened four times, the terrorits -- including a very pissed off Wake, who happened to be in the next room from where I was (literaly, I was playing on roomie's comp) wised up, and the terrorists made a tactical feint from below the stairwell, while others pitched in smoke grenades, flash bangs, and HEs. We lost that round).

I've been getting good at checking my rear, although sometimes I do forget to keep up my guard -- half my team got pegged in the back, when, charging to the bomb site, we failed to check a dead-end recessed slope where two CTs were waiting for us (after having lost the previous three rounds, they decided their tactics were in need of work).

I don't care a lot for either flash-bangs or smoke grenades. The flash-bangs blind your team members too, and the smoke grenades are really only good to cover a retreat, because, again, they blind you just as much (not to mention, no computer I've played on handles the smoke effects very well).
 

Terroist ARE SUPPOSE TO CAMP in "hostages rescue", or "VIP escaping" maps, so don't feel bad if you do camp, cuz it's the right thing to do.

Oh the "bombing" map though, T are not suppose to camp.
 

I had the bomb a few times. Planted it on occasion, got killed on occasion ...
 

BlueElectron: Word. It is very important to put up a security grid in those situations, no matter hat they call you.

Another tip for you, Jeff, is to practice rapid weapons switching, if you're caught with an empty rifle mag in close quarters. If you have a scrollwheel on thy mouse you can switch from rifle to gun/knife if you run out of lead in a tight spot. Yessir, it has saved my posterior many a night.
Rule of thumb is pistol over knife but sometimes knife is more decisive, if the other guy already is a little hurt. Or if the gun almost empty as well. A fraction of a second can save ya or shave ya.

Also, be sure to "upgrade" to better weapons lying on the ground. I think you pretty much know already which weapons are more desirable than others.

One time I actually had an encounter similar to the tavern scene in "Desperado".
The CT and I were shooting at one another, charging in like crazy apes, giving as good as we got, and both mags ran out.
We were at a previously crowded place, so guns were lying everywere. We both went through about three guns each before I got hold of some crappy thing (I think it was a MAC-10) with ten rounds left, but it was enough. He went horizontal and I got an erection from the adrenaline spike.

I'll tellya, twenty years from now the doctors will be mighty puzzled by all the premature heart failures among the people born 1970-80.
But to quote the Kurgan, "It's better to burn out than to fade away"...

[ August 14, 2001: Message edited by: Nimrod ]

Do you mean the HE grenade? It's pretty powerful.

My friend, who plays as PoBabyJesus, has gotten a few kills with a knife. On one instance, he jumped on a CT's head and killed him from above.
 

Nimrod, are there any websites which have detailed plans of the various maps? There was a "dam" level which I had fun with ...

It's a fun server. And, like I said, be wary of "Wake" and "Po'BabyJesus."
 

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Originally posted by Nimrod:
Hmm, I haven't tried Front Line Force. But I heard they use the swedish AK5 in there, can't help but feel a litte flattered.
I take it it's spawn-based, not like in CS?

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Yeah... forced respawn delay, though. And the weaponry/movement/aim/stamina system is pretty nicely implemented... (i.e. bunny hopping -> Bad Things Happen)
 

I think I'll stick to Elite Force from now on.
 

Also, if you hear bullets ricocheting off the walls around you but no gunfire, someone is taking longshots at you. Take cover fast, if it's a sniper rifle you'll be lucky you got one warningshot!
 

Man, that thing just plain sucks ... no range, no aim ... might impressive lookin', tho ...
 

Then again, it always comes down to that, doing it right, doesn't it? :-)
Two days ago me and my pals did the three-gun foxtrot again, on Aztec-Map, walked up to a door to get to a big yard where we could dance, and three terrorists rushed us with AKs and SMGs (before we could pass through), getting into spitting distance instantly.
We never had a chance. And the bastards took our SAWs and used them to slaughter the rest of my team. It was unbelievable...
 

Pity though that the ping is so lousy for me on that server, I get lag sometimes.
But I can hack it, I've spent more than a few hours on a server in Vancouver that supports 32 players PLUS has a bad connection, so I'm no stranger to ping. :-)
 

I'll be on tonight. Actually, "PoBabyJesus" was playing as "AbusedSow" recently, as it turns out. Anyway, I should be on as "Malnurtured Sow" tonight (starting 12:3 - 1am EST).
 

Do a search for the "Vandit" server. There should be only one. Oh my god: they're good.

I actually had a rather good game last night. My skill level is rapidly improving. I got three kills in a row, believe it or not at one point. Mucho fun that was, yes.

Gotta love that AK - !

How about if we make it Flare people only, better yet, let's make a "flair" clan!
 

Anyone know a good website with maps of the, er, maps?
 

As you know, I cannot play Counter-strike on my computer because a) I don't have a fast enough connection (cable modem getting installed Tuesday), and b) I need a software upgrade I can only get once I get the cable modem (otherwise, it's a 6-hr download).

However, tommorow when I get off work, I'm going to my friend Mike's place to play. His roomate is off to Boston, so I'll have unfettered access to Steve's computer. Look for me around 1:30 - 2am EST (okay, okay, so Sunday morning...), on the "Smash or be Smashed" server. I'll be Malnurtured Sow ... or maybe Boston Bitch ...

Hope to see some of you there. You'll know me because I'm the one who yells "snay" a lot.
 

Anyway, I'm off to work. After which, I'll be playing Counter-Strike. Looking forward to seeing some of you online ... actually, I'll try use my FLARE name (MeGotBeer), so anyone from here who'll be on Smash or be Smashed (sometime after 1:30 - 2am EST), try and use your Flare aliases, eh? (i.e.: BlueElectron/Nimrod)
 

This particular sunday I wonder if I'llmanage to get up up by the time of 8:00 as I need all the regen I can get before 10:00 to arrange a damn party. Of course I could just make it there, you never know, hehe.

Tell you what, though, I can usually stretch to 19:00-21:00 EST on a friday or saturday, so perhaps next week. I won't get ADSL for another two months, but the 280Kbit I've got now is juuuust enough to keep the ping above "intolerable" at your american servers.

I'm used to a ping of 20-60 milliseconds at my homie places, most american servers go from 200-600ms from where I'm at. Hopefully, that'll change soon.
In the meantime, you'll just have to enjoy your little advantage for as long as you can. ;.)

[ August 18, 2001: Message edited by: Nimrod ]

Most excellent! How cool was it that you found me on the Vandit server? Okay, okay, so our team got raped a few times ... although, we did particularly well on "Inferno", I thought.

Glad you could make it up that early! It's now about 5:40am here, I just got home from Mike's place -- lots of Counter-strike! You are an amazing player, you racked up those body bags.

Very much looking forward to playing with you again ...

Jeff

(Who is going to go to sleep now)
 

As for future engagements, yesterday was me with five hour's sleep and a hangover, so to coin a phrase..."You ain't seen nuthin' yet!" ;.

[ August 19, 2001: Message edited by: Nimrod ]

I thought I was good ... but, er, I'm not. My friend Mike (PoEBabyJesus) and Steve (SOBWake) are putting together their own servers ... oh, and dude, you ROCKED.

Anyway ... hey, do you know if there's a Counter-Strike level editor? Mike and I want to design an Italy-style level -- except, better. Sewers, taller buildings, etc.
 

And you are not a total newbie at all, you seem to have all the traits in you that can be honed into proper CS instincts and tactics. Just keep putting in the hours.
It's always hard to try a new way of playing, one can be great at deathmatches and furballs of Quake or Unreal Tournament. But if one can't adapt to teamwork and the subliminal "wolf pack" psychology, CS will get very very lonely.
 

But DoD is cool, one of the few WWII FPS sims. The weapons are cool and the surroundings are very WWII-like, even if it resembles the original halflife both in look and feel.

But I haven't played long enough to be comfortable with any of the player types; paratrooper, infantery, grenadier.
 

I think I know why my Counterstrike isn't working on my computer. Every time I log on to gamespy.com to join a game, I get the following message:

your .dll (cl - dlls/client.dll) differs from the servers'

Both my dlls and dll folders in my "CStrike" folder are empty. Anyone here HAVE anything in their dlls and dll folders?

Jus' wondering ...
 

On DGS, I believe. Italy ... small group, only 3 or 4 players per team.

I racked up 14 kills and 5 deaths (that is, I killed 14 dudes and only died 5 times myself) in the played matches (Ten or twelve or so, I guess).

I was very proud of myself. I was Death, armed with an MPNavy, a captured M16 (silenced), and an AK in one level.

I AM RULE!

Mess with Malnurtured Sow, taste lead.
 

So I'll be fragging some for the next days, I've already played through "Max Payne" twice now, so it's time to revisit the servers.
 

I'm looking for the easiest C-S world editor you know of.
 

And yes I also play DOD.
 

Played a great game of it today. The CT team was sharp, but no match for my shotgun on "Milita." At one point, it was only me alive on the T team, and four of them tried to get me out of the garage.

One blast from my shotgun took out the idiot who tried to enter through the attic vent.

I saw a CT run past in the hall outside of the garage. Switched to my grenade, and tossed it. I killed one of the CTs with that, and another raced into the garage. Anyone whose played C-S knows that when you lob a frag, you switch back to your primary weapon. So I fired my shotgun as soon as it switched back, and I got the guy by pure luck.

The fourth -- and last -- guy tossed in a flashbang (blinding blast of white light that blinds you) and charged in, but I was on the other side of the SUV, and I gunned him (and a hostage) down as he was trying to get the hosties to follow him.

They were better organized the second time. They came in the attic vent and hall door at the same time, lobbing flashbangs and hand-grenades. I went DOWN ...

So the next round I killed all the hostages, and charged the front yard. Got one kill, then got gunned down like a pimp, yo.

Anyway ...

[ November 03, 2001: Message edited by: Malnurtured Snay ]

[ November 03, 2001: Message edited by: Mojo Jojo ]