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Posted by Tahna Los (Member # 33) on :
 
Olympic Women's Gold Medal Hockey Game: Canada wins against the U.S. 3-2. That was on Thursday.

Olympic Men's Gold Medal Hockey Game: Canada wins against the U.S. 5-2. Just finished over an hour ago.

CANADA WINS DOUBLE GOLD!!! WHOO HOO!!

[ February 24, 2002, 15:46: Message edited by: Tahna Los ]
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
Bunch of Nutmeggers.

Whoop.
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Well, you all were so upset about the curling, the rest of the world got together and thought they'd try to give you something, at least. . . 8)

Kidding. Congrats, and heartily deserved. It was a really good game, that.

But. . . The American team, Christ what a bunch of sore fucking losers. All the thousands of other athletes who came from all over the world, did their personal best, yet never got anywhere near getting a podium place, let alone a Silver, would probably have been up there quite happily instead of the Group Sulk that the US team got going.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Yeah. We were chuffed simply to get a bronze in a skiing event.
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
I didn't even know that there was Winter in England. Hmm. The things you learn.
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
I've just roused myself from the kind of drunken stupor that leads to the whole Bob & Doug McKenzie-esque stereotyping of Canadians. But man, oh man.

Best.

Game.

Ever.

Fuckinghellyeah. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
 
Sweet!

and just for some icing on the cake I found this in the Toronto Star
quote:
Thus did the ice-making team at the E Center � brought down from Canada because of their expertise in such matters � plant just a bit of luck, a bit of a charm, right into the ice surface itself: a single loonie, buried at centre ice, hardly visible above the surface.
Thanks for letting us make the ice.

[ February 25, 2002, 06:37: Message edited by: Grokca ]
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
I'm assuming 'loonie' in this context doesn't mean a mental patient.
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
the american team soar losers for sulking? what about other countries who created international scandals or threatened to pull out of the games when they didn't win? i don't think that being down after you expect to win constitutes being a sore loser. if anything, the US team has been a very good sport when it comes to not winning expected gold. besides, if there had been a US coin under the center ice the US would have won womens and mens gold in hockey. fucking cheaters. the "loonie" probably had an anti-american subspace field or something [Big Grin] . good game by the way, and congrats. it's nice that the US conquered the bobsled drought and canada conquered the hockey drought.

--jacob
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Actually, Lee, if you'd compare the reaction of the American men to the American women, they were downright sportsmanlike. Sulkiness reigned supreme when our ladies whupped their butts the other day.

Loonie.

Oh, and one idle question... did the telecast of the game over there just reuse North American commentators, or did the TV channel go out and find the only two Brits who knew enough about ice hockey to do good play-by-play?

[ February 25, 2002, 08:47: Message edited by: The_Tom ]
 
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
 
Just heard that the loonie was dug out and was give to Wayne and will reside in the Hockey Hall of Fame.
 
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
is the other side of that coin silver with gold in the middle? there was a picture of the coin that was under the center ice on NBC, and it was definitely sliver with gold in the middle.

--jacob
 
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
 
Perhaps it was a toonie then? A two dollar coin.

As for the Americans being sore lossers I would say you couldn't have been farther from the truth.
I think they played a fine game and the American press has had nothing but praise for the Canadian team today.
http://www.nypost.com/sports/olympics/39535.htm

This has been echoed in every sports article I have read in the American press.
 
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
 
And now that the Hockey gold metals are ours, the rest of this plan will now unfold
http://www.standonguard.com/index2.html
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Gretz showed off a loonie after the game, anyway.
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
As regards the commentators, well, you'd think after listening to them for an hour I'd remember, but nope. I think at least one was a Brit, other might have had an "American" accent (we can't tell the difference between US and Canadian accents): certainly some of the games I saw on the BBC or on British Eurosport had that combination.

Plus, in the studio with the actual Olympic Grandstand presenters they had P.Y. Gerbeau, a French guy who ran the Millenium Dome and apparently used to play ice hockey, plus one Canadian ex-player whose name I didn't catch.
 
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 
Just to show that there are no hard feelings, President Bush announced today that he's decided to annex Canada, except for Quebec. Welcome to the Union!
 
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
quote:
except for Quebec
See? He's not so dumb. At least, not so dumb as to actually WANT Quebec to be part of his country.
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Clarifying the whole loonie thing... story
 
Posted by Jack_Crusher (Member # 696) on :
 
Whoopdie f***ing sh*t. As evidenced in Collateral Damage, no one gives a sh*t about the Canadians.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Lee: Well, there is no difference between a US and a Canadian accent, if you want to express it in those terms. Obviously, there are different US accents and different Canadian accents. However, since the two groups overlap (in general, someone from northern Minnesota isn't going to sound different than someone from western Ontario, for example), it's really just one big group of accents.
 
Posted by thoughtcriminal84 (Member # 480) on :
 
further on the accents: Alot of Americans think the way alot of Canadians pronounce the word "about" is funny.

Me, I don't know what all the fuss is about.

---

I've noticed that every forum thread on the net that I've gone to that is talking about this hockey thing has the same title: Oh Canada!!!!!
(sometimes with five or more exclamation marks, half the time the "X2" is added.

I'm wondering: Did the Canadian sports writers start that filthy meme, or is it just too obvious to pass up?
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Adding to the loonie story, it was the American news people who screwed up and put a $2 coin - the toonie, as we call it - on their news reports. The toonie is the one with the silver ring around a golden centre. Our $1 coin is a solid golden colour, with a Canadian loon on the tails side, hence the name.

[Insert random dumb joke about Canadian vs. US currency here. Be creative.]

It was nuts here in Calgary. People poured out into the streets at taverns all over the place, we had to shut down 4th Ave for a while for the impromptu parade, and the huge party from the Canadian Olympic Park (where most Canadian athletes, and many American and international Olympians train) was filled with hundreds of cheering fans who were watching the game at a special party there.

Equally entertaining was the reception we gave 80+ returning athletes this morning at the airport. Most of them hadn't slept the night before, partying at the closing ceremonies and various locations around Salt Lake City, then leaving for the airport at 2:00am for the flight back here. Then when they got off the plane eight hours later, they had to deal with a big welcoming party at the airport. A notable fraction of the athletes were wearing "Get lost, I wanna SLEEEEEEP!" looks on their faces as they were drowned by fans and media people. [Smile]

Mark

[ February 25, 2002, 23:48: Message edited by: Mark Nguyen ]
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Tim: I'm sure if you gave me a whole bunch of accents to listen to, I'd be able to pick between them and say, this one's US, that's Canadian, the other's Pepsi. . . But generally I can't identify any one accent straight off. Must do a search, I'm sure there'll be a webpage somewhere!
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
That Jack Crusher is a cool guy. Hey, cool guy. [Cool]
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Well, anyone who self edits their profanity has way too much time on their hands.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Lee: Well, if you listened to an Alabama accent vs. a Newfoundland accent, then, yeah, I should hope you could tell the difference. But trying to determine the difference between a northern US accent and a southern Canadian accent is rather futile. It's like trying to use accents to tell if someone is from Kentucky or Tennessee. Sure, you have a 50/50 chance at guessing, and some of the more extreme cases might be obvious. But, for the most part, there's no difference.
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
While I'm certain everyone will just roll their eyes and say Tom is again making a big deal about how Canadians and Americans are more different than everyone thinks they are, there is most certainly a noticeable difference in accent between Vancouver and Seattle, for instance. There's a certain twanging quality that even the "softest" American accents tend to have that is absent from the Canadian.

Newfies sound just plain weird.

[ February 26, 2002, 13:58: Message edited by: The_Tom ]
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Yes, but you live there, and so are going to be more attuned to subtle differences.

Until I moved up here, I'd had a bit of trouble identifying the difference between Liverpool and Newcastle accents straight off. I usually had to do a comparison in my head (to Dave Lister and Liam Gallagher respectively).

And to make a comparison to Tim's point, in many ways a Newcastle accent is far closer to a Scottish accent than it is to a London accent.

As a rule, the more "working-class" (I hate using that term)a person, the stronger their accent. Going the other way though, accents almost seem to split in two. On the one hand, you get the "posh" accent, where things become horrible over-pronounced. On the other, you end up with what I believe is called a "mid-atlantic accent", of the sort Kelsey Grammer has, where most of the pronounciation varying that happens in accents is wiped out, leaving you with something in the middle.
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Well, either you're confusing Newcastle and Manchester, or you honestly think Liam Galagher comes from Newcastle. I'm not sure which would be worse. . . 8)
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Tom: But that's a specific example: Seattle vs. Vancouver. Can you say that the same thing is true in general? Like I mentioned before, would someone from northern Minnesota sound different than someone from western Ontario?
 
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
 
I live in Sault Ste. Marie, Ont. and across the St. Mary's river from me is Sault Ste. Marie Michigan. We have lived in relative isolation from most other cities for the last 200 years. You would think that being as there has always been some kind of link between our cities and constant trade that we would sound alike but this is not true, it is as Tom said the Americans sound a bit trangier than we do. They say gad instead of god, they also add an extra syllable in some words like "da-i-dy" for daddy. I think it must come from a difference in the system we are taught english in, we are taught as we call it "the queen's english" and they are taught "american english". I have been told by them that we sound like we have a bit of a french accent to them. This sounds strange to us but it is highly possible, even though the Soo pnly has about 5% french speaking people. But in the surrounding areas (about 100 km away) there is about a 50/50 mix of french/english.
Actually the people from Southern Ontario, Toronto, Hamilton and these areas sound a lot like people from Michigan to us, not as pronounced but subtly there.
Oh and someone from Minnesota does sound similar to someone from Michigan so yes.

[ February 28, 2002, 13:12: Message edited by: Grokca ]
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I meant Manchester. I was trying to pick cities close to each other. And it's hard to mistake the distinctive cries of the Geordie accent, where they seem to make up words just for the sake of it. "Kecks" for "Sweets"? What on earth is that about?
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Kecks? I think someone was having you on. All the Geordies I ever heard use that term meant what it usually means.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
No, but the lad is actually from Darlington. He's one of that bad breed of Yorkshire people: The wannabe Geordie, who puts on an accent when he's around other people and goes over board in saying "waaayyyy" and "We are the Geordies, the Geordie boot-boys", when everyone else is just slightly embarrassed.
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
England is some crazy!
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Yes. All your base, and so on.
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 
All your (insert lorrie is to truck, as ______ is to base) here, rather?
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
I believe the British translation for "base" is "pub." Can somebody verify this?

Speaking of which, did I read somewhere that "al Qaeda" translates to "the Base?" Dare I theorize that bin Laden ordered the attacks on 9-11 "for great justice?"
 
Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :
 
'AL Qaeda' is appreantly something odd in arabic as there was some confusion as to what it meant or where it possible come from.

One possible translaton was Base or Foundation in english with the higher probality on Foundation.

So to answer The_Toms question it was for great justice.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Ice is as cold as frozen water.

No, really.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I can also imagine Bush seeing Bin Laden on a TV screen and proclaiming "It you!". And then following it up by casually using the phrase "Pakie-scum", or something.
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
move MIGs move MIGs you know what you do
 


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