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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,14,18,1,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 14, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:01 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> 52 and 7/8:ths, to be exact. Of WETA-love, that is!<br /><br />Andur�l revealed! (If you don't want to see it until you see the movie, don't click.)<br /><br /><a href="http://www.realmoffantasy.com/swords/images/UC1380AS.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.realmoffantasy.com/swords/images/UC1380AS.jpg</a> <br /><br />I think they pulled it off nicely.<br />Many have been confused as to how they would put so many runes and symbols on such a small area, as it says in the Andur�l book-description.<br /><br />I wonder what the classification is? Bastard sword? Two-hand sword? Greatsword?<br />Of course, I don't think WETA had the "Oakeshott" sword-typology in mind when they made this lady.<br /><br /><br />Fresh-baked <i>lembas</i> to the first one to translate all the runes in succession. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mountain Man</b> <br /><small>Member # 1114</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,14,18,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 14, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:16 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <a href="http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie_inscriptions.htm#maeg" target="_blank">http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie_inscriptions.htm#maeg</a> I was posting this link for you to study when you moved I'll delete the first post now. "Arming swords" or "hand and a half" are about that size but different in construction and detail. The "bastard sword" is a common name as well. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,14,18,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 14, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:20 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, technically both hands fit on the grip, as Boromir demonstrated in "Fellowship" before dropping it and making an ass of himself in front of his future king. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mountain Man</b> <br /><small>Member # 1114</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,14,18,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 14, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:37 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Both hands can be used. The "double pay man" type of two handed sword has a much larger handle and is difficult to use one handed. They are also much longer. It's a matter of allowing the single hand grip when needed. You shift your grip to find the best balance point. The styling of the sword you have shown here is 14th to 15th century. common name for 14th is "War sword" 15th "arming sword".Thats the best I can find out from the net. My reference books are still packed away. Thats sounds about right though.<br /> <br /> <small>[ September 14, 2003, 07:47 PM: Message edited by: Mountain Man ]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,15,19,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 15, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:29 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The nearest I can figure on the runes is:<br /><br /><blockquote>anar- n�nie * and�ril i * n� narthil * i makil * elendilo * lerkuba * nten i m�li * mora�reo ithil</blockquote><br />The first word is "sun" and the last is "moon" (because they are next to the pictures of those things). "And�ril" is, of course, the sword. I believe "narthil i makil elendilo" is supposed to be "Narsil, the sword of Elendil". The rest of it, I'm lost on.<br /><br />They seem to have consistently used the rune labelled 'd' in Tolkein's language appendix when they meant 'a' (e.g. the first letter in "And�ril"). Except it seems like they might have meant it to be a 'd' in the second-to-last word, which would make more sense as "Mord�reo".<br /><br />I think something must also be wrong with "nten", which isn't much of a word.<br /><br />And no, I don't really know anything about Elvish. All my information comes from the appendix at the back of RotK. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mountain Man</b> <br /><small>Member # 1114</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,15,22,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 15, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:04 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <a href="http://www.realmoffantasy.com" target="_blank">http://www.realmoffantasy.com</a> This link will give you the details of the blade inscription. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Da_bang80</b> <br /><small>Member # 528</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,15,23,41,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 15, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:41 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Total hotness. That's about all i got to say. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The359</b> <br /><small>Member # 37</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,16,0,29,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:29 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Am I the only one who is lost here...? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Ultra Magnus</b> <br /><small>Member # 239</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,16,0,36,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:36 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> "My other penis is really sharp." <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,16,5,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:38 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The359: The link I supplied in my first post shows Andur�l, the reforged sword that was broken in the first "Lord of the Rings"-movie.<br />Aragorn (Viggo Mortensen) will take it with him in the third LOTR-movie.<br /><br />I understand it doesn't matter much to those not interested in Tolkien (or those that are but care more about hobbits than arms), but many that have read the books are interested in how they will arrange the inscriptions on the blade (they weren't there before).<br /><br />Originally the elves of Rivendell only added the runes and symbols, this text is a bonus.<br /><br />TSN, you get supple lemba. You were very close, good studywork there.<br /><br />Mountainman, you're a spoilsport.<br />Ah well, serves me for supplying the whole link.<br /><br />The whole text is "N�ny� And�ril i n� Narsil i macil Elendilo. <b>Lercuvanten</b> i m�li Mord�r�o".<br /><br />"I am And�ril who was Narsil, the sword of Elendil. Let the thralls of Mordor flee me." <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mountain Man</b> <br /><small>Member # 1114</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2003,8,16,8,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 2003</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:28 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Nim, I did not read the lettering on your link. I found the link I posted here on the web and put it here because I thought it was different or new information. The inscriptions on the blades in the movie may not be what the book would call for. The swords available for sale to the public most likely differ in detail in some ways to avoid future attempts to pass them off as screen used props. The design of this type of blade would allow it to be used one handed while on horse back and two handed on foot. The great sword is more for use on foot,much like the claymore. The bastard blades are shorter and heavier. They would lack the reach to be used as effectively by a horseman. Only the best swordsmiths could have produced a blade of the "war sword" and "arming" type that could withstand the stress of battle against armored foes. Its the weapon of the nobility. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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