I think they pulled it off nicely. Many have been confused as to how they would put so many runes and symbols on such a small area, as it says in the Andur�l book-description.
I wonder what the classification is? Bastard sword? Two-hand sword? Greatsword? Of course, I don't think WETA had the "Oakeshott" sword-typology in mind when they made this lady.
Fresh-baked lembas to the first one to translate all the runes in succession.
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http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie_inscriptions.htm#maeg I was posting this link for you to study when you moved I'll delete the first post now. "Arming swords" or "hand and a half" are about that size but different in construction and detail. The "bastard sword" is a common name as well.
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Well, technically both hands fit on the grip, as Boromir demonstrated in "Fellowship" before dropping it and making an ass of himself in front of his future king.
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Both hands can be used. The "double pay man" type of two handed sword has a much larger handle and is difficult to use one handed. They are also much longer. It's a matter of allowing the single hand grip when needed. You shift your grip to find the best balance point. The styling of the sword you have shown here is 14th to 15th century. common name for 14th is "War sword" 15th "arming sword".Thats the best I can find out from the net. My reference books are still packed away. Thats sounds about right though.
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anar- n�nie * and�ril i * n� narthil * i makil * elendilo * lerkuba * nten i m�li * mora�reo ithil
The first word is "sun" and the last is "moon" (because they are next to the pictures of those things). "And�ril" is, of course, the sword. I believe "narthil i makil elendilo" is supposed to be "Narsil, the sword of Elendil". The rest of it, I'm lost on.
They seem to have consistently used the rune labelled 'd' in Tolkein's language appendix when they meant 'a' (e.g. the first letter in "And�ril"). Except it seems like they might have meant it to be a 'd' in the second-to-last word, which would make more sense as "Mord�reo".
I think something must also be wrong with "nten", which isn't much of a word.
And no, I don't really know anything about Elvish. All my information comes from the appendix at the back of RotK.
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Total hotness. That's about all i got to say.
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The359: The link I supplied in my first post shows Andur�l, the reforged sword that was broken in the first "Lord of the Rings"-movie. Aragorn (Viggo Mortensen) will take it with him in the third LOTR-movie.
I understand it doesn't matter much to those not interested in Tolkien (or those that are but care more about hobbits than arms), but many that have read the books are interested in how they will arrange the inscriptions on the blade (they weren't there before).
Originally the elves of Rivendell only added the runes and symbols, this text is a bonus.
TSN, you get supple lemba. You were very close, good studywork there.
Mountainman, you're a spoilsport. Ah well, serves me for supplying the whole link.
The whole text is "N�ny� And�ril i n� Narsil i macil Elendilo. Lercuvanten i m�li Mord�r�o".
"I am And�ril who was Narsil, the sword of Elendil. Let the thralls of Mordor flee me."
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Nim, I did not read the lettering on your link. I found the link I posted here on the web and put it here because I thought it was different or new information. The inscriptions on the blades in the movie may not be what the book would call for. The swords available for sale to the public most likely differ in detail in some ways to avoid future attempts to pass them off as screen used props. The design of this type of blade would allow it to be used one handed while on horse back and two handed on foot. The great sword is more for use on foot,much like the claymore. The bastard blades are shorter and heavier. They would lack the reach to be used as effectively by a horseman. Only the best swordsmiths could have produced a blade of the "war sword" and "arming" type that could withstand the stress of battle against armored foes. Its the weapon of the nobility.
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