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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on April 01, 2005 01:24 PM:

Really bummed about this: as pontiffs go, he was the best.

....I cant really fault him for the whole "church molestation thing" as he may have known nothing about the reassignments....
I wonder how much daily operations decisions are really is presented to the Pope for consideration.
Particularly an extremely aged Pope.

Anyone know who's up for his position?

I recall someone from the year-before-last speaking against gay marriages that was supposed to be a likely candidate.
He scared me by quoting Leviniticus (sp?, you know, the book o' hate and killin' in the Bible).

I have heard nothing lately though.

I nominate Sigfried for Pope: he's basically moral and not getting laid so... [Big Grin]

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on April 01, 2005 03:38 PM:

Leviticus.

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on April 01, 2005 05:20 PM:

I'm off to Poland in a few weeks, and (slightly selfishly), part of me is worried that he'll hang on until then and then die when we get there. Which would be sad (cause he's dead and all), and bad (because everywhere would shut down).

Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on April 01, 2005 05:35 PM:

My papal name shall be Pope George Ringo.

My sole surviving grandparent, my grandmother, is upset. She's devoutly Catholic, and she hasn't been able to watch the news. I'm saddened by the news, but John Paul II really hasn't been doing very well in some time.

Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on April 01, 2005 06:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by TSN:
Leviticus.

Thanks.
Still not on my reading list or anything though. [Wink]

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on April 01, 2005 07:29 PM:

What are you going to do in Poland, Liam?

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on April 01, 2005 07:36 PM:

Visit Auchfitz. Enjoy cheap drink. Not at the same time.

Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on April 01, 2005 09:54 PM:

Yeah, we Poles are not feeling particulary happy right now, as you can imagine. Main TV stations switched to pope-centric programs, for example showing many different people (soccer players) praying for pope.

It is sad to see him go...

Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on April 02, 2005 03:46 AM:

So if the pope dies, does that mean god hates catholics?

Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on April 02, 2005 04:10 AM:

Let's find out. Pope John Paul II has now passed on.

Safe travels, dude. You done well.

Mark

Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on April 02, 2005 04:25 AM:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04/02/pope.dies/index.html

This summer is World Youth Day 2005 in K�ln, Germany. The John Paul II started this thing, and he usually attends a large celebration every 3 years... I wonder if its going to happen this year?

Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on April 02, 2005 08:18 AM:

I am Catholic, though I disagreed with many of his policies (brith control, abortion, things of that line) and agreed with many others (anti-war, anti-death penalty, apologies to Muslims/Jews). So I will say that his passing is sad in the regards that we have lost an influential voice for peace in the world, but I hope this time the church will pick a less-conservative pontiff (but how likely is that?).

And, since any Catholic man can technically be pope...I could, in theory, become the next pope... [Eek!]

Posted by Marauth (Member # 1320) on April 02, 2005 12:42 PM:

I must agree almost point for point with Veers on this matter, though I renounced Catholicism a few years back I still agreed with many of Karol Wojtyla's views against death-penalty, anti-communist reconciliation between the faiths especially with muslims.

OTOH I couldn't stand some of the hardline conservative values he espoused - anti-gay, anti-birth-control anti-abortion as I understand it his goal upon accession was to counter the decades of liberalisation (i.e. progress) that had been made within the church and for that I'll not miss him.

I think the Catholic church doesn't recognise apostacy so technically I think I'm eligible, fun though it would be to be the first atheist pope [Eek!]

they haven't picked a pope who wasn't one of the cardinals since 1378 so I doubt it'll be anyone outside of their club this time either. As I understand the top-runner at the moment is a nigerian hardliner, can't recall the name of the top of my head though.

Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on April 02, 2005 02:34 PM:

Sweet: I'll start getting Nigerian Pope scams via fax now....

Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on April 02, 2005 07:31 PM:

"...I hope this time the church will pick a less-conservative pontiff (but how likely is that?)"

Well, the last time they did that, someone killed him almost the next day, so...

Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on April 03, 2005 02:15 AM:

Perhaps inevitably, the phrase 'Pope Idol' springs to mind...

Posted by Nim' (Member # 205) on April 03, 2005 02:16 AM:

Actually, Jason, you may not be far off the mark because I've seen numerous mentions of a 72-year old, Rome-based cardinal born in Algeria as a potential successor.

I predict Vincenzo Coccotti will be thrilled at the prospect.

Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on April 03, 2005 03:03 AM:

Although there is also a good chance it will be an Italian (John Paul II was the first non-Italian Pope in something like 455 years) or a South American, seeing as how South AMerica now has 50% of the world's Catholics. Some guy from Brazil's been mentioned, I think.