Is it just me or are the "new posts since last visit" icons, that are next to the posts, a little buggy? As it'll still show the icons there for days, even when I have read all the posts there. I even need to click on the "[Update Post Indicators]" link on the front of the forum 2 or 3 times before it clears all the little icons next to posts I've read. Or is there a post somewhere that explains all this and that I should just go away and RTFM? Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
could be your browser's cache isn't clearing. If you use the browser 'reload', it should give you current info.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
My cache is set for 0 and it still does it for me. I use the [Update Post Indicators]. It could be that the chocolate chips have been replaced with oreos.
Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
I get that one! You are referring to the Cookies, right?
Posted by OverRon (Member # 2036) on :
I don't think it's the cache that's doing it, as refresh will still show the same post still flagged as "new." They eventually disappear on old threads after like 4 days or so, and the only way to get rid of them after viewing a thread is to use the [Update Post Indicators] a couple of times. Every other forum I visit updates the icons appropriately, just not this one.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Yes, you have won the No Bake Award!
One ubb=markallread click to clear the ones I have read, then another click to clear any posts I have made, and I am good. I've been dealing with this for a long time, I figured it was just a quirk of UBB.
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Odd, I don't have any of those problems. The indicators go away as soon as I click a thread's title to go to it.
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
Click [Update Post Indicators] once and only once, when you are done posting for the time being. Yes, this will still leave your posts marked as new. But when you come back to the board later, they'll be marked old properly.
Clicking it multiple times in a row causes the weird behavior you're seeing. The code uses two timestamps to determine what's new and what's not. Every new visit to the board and every click to the link bumps the oldest timestamp off, shifts the newest to the oldest's position, and puts the current time in the new slot.
This means that the next time you come to the board, it can only compare two almost identical timestamps to figure out what's new. That causes all sorts of fun problems.
So, as I said. Click it once. Just once. Treat this place like it's running on an antiquated quirky piece of crap software, and you'll be fine. It's funny because it's true.
The next class starship UBB7 upgrade that never happened (and never will) was to come with sane, modern new post notification. If RL ever stops ambushing me with BS, I'll be able to finish the new forum software. (There's a running prototype, but critical features are missing that prevent it from taking over Flare.)
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
I feel so scolded.......
I've been meaning to ask you about just that subject, the main question is OS or pay?
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
After using UBB for nine years I'm not so sure I'd like that as a replacement.... :S
A lot of the other boards I frequent use vBulletin, which is a pretty nifty system.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
I don't frequent other boards. Too many nerds.
*can't hold a straight face and nearly dies laughing*
Posted by OverRon (Member # 2036) on :
Well I got the weirdness with the new posts before I ever found the new post updater link on the front page. Hell, I only ever saw that link a few days ago. I can live with this little "quirk," it's like that window that won't shut right in your home, or that crack in the pavement on the way to work, it makes the forums feel "lived in."
As for other boards, I used to visit the spacebattles forum occasionaly, and that place is filled with hard core number crunchers and military geeks. The vs. board is filled with universe vs. universe fights, with people trotting out things like:
Rabid Warsie: "An Eclipse SSD would rape the Federation single handed. {Insert complicated weapon yield formula from onscreen evidence}"
Rabid Trekkie: "Then the Federation would send 31st century timeships to stop them and erase them from history. {insert even more complicated formula from onscreen evidence and guesswork}"
Rabid Warsie: "Well the couldn't fight the whole might of the Empire, Sith/Jedi included. {Insert stupid claim and BS calculations}"
Rabid Trekkie: "Well Q beats all. {Insert picture of Q}"
Those people scare me! Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
quote:Originally posted by Fabrux: After using UBB for nine years I'm not so sure I'd like that as a replacement.... :S
A lot of the other boards I frequent use vBulletin, which is a pretty nifty system.
I like the SMF form used at SCN.
Posted by OverRon (Member # 2036) on :
A couple of forum's I frequent use SMF too, it's okay as forum thingies go.
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
The solution will be custom-developed and released as open source. GPL3, probably.
The only existing package I'd ever consider is Vanilla, but I don't think you guys would like it too much.
SMF is coded by amateur monkeys. phpBB is untrustable. vBulletin is coded by assholes. Invision is... questionable. Hmm, who else does that leave...
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Well, you'd know better than anyone else here, I think.
Custom coded, eh? Can we have an Octagon?
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
quote:Originally posted by Charles Capps: The solution will be custom-developed and released as open source. GPL3, probably
Very cool CC, yes indeed.
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
Just please never use gratuitous captcha...
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
quote:Custom coded, eh? Can we have an Octagon?
I fail to see why we need an eight sided geometric figure, but why not?
quote:Just please never use gratuitous captcha...
The only CAPTCHA present will be on the registration form, and will be along the lines of "check this box" and "perform some math operation on these two numbers." (These steps were proven necessary relatively early on. Modern spammer bots are far, far more clever than I expected, and were able to see right past the initial level of protection I coded.)
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
quote:Originally posted by Charles Capps: Click [Update Post Indicators] once and only once, when you are done posting for the time being. Yes, this will still leave your posts marked as new. But when you come back to the board later, they'll be marked old properly.
Clicking it multiple times in a row causes the weird behavior you're seeing. The code uses two timestamps to determine what's new and what's not. Every new visit to the board and every click to the link bumps the oldest timestamp off, shifts the newest to the oldest's position, and puts the current time in the new slot.
This means that the next time you come to the board, it can only compare two almost identical timestamps to figure out what's new. That causes all sorts of fun problems.
So, as I said. Click it once. Just once. Treat this place like it's running on an antiquated quirky piece of crap software, and you'll be fine. It's funny because it's true.
The next class starship UBB7 upgrade that never happened (and never will) was to come with sane, modern new post notification. If RL ever stops ambushing me with BS, I'll be able to finish the new forum software. (There's a running prototype, but critical features are missing that prevent it from taking over Flare.)
ok. Explain THIS to me then...
i check the forums from (usually) two sources: My Uber Cracked Laptop of Doom and one of serveral terminals in my shop on the IKE. Sometimes when i check here (and a lot of times on MacrossWorld) or on ALFA, i have to log in, even after i set it to autolog/remember me. most of the time, i see this on the IKE LAN (and i thought it had something to do with where i check, since i log on from what ever terminal is availible at the time)
so what causes uncommanded LOGOUT?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
An Octagon for BATTLES!! Automatic Octagon battles!
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
quote:An Octagon for BATTLES!! Automatic Octagon battles!
Why would one fight over an eight sided... *googles*
Ah. No then.
quote:so what causes uncommanded LOGOUT?
The next time this happens, look at the next on the front page next to the update indicators button. The "you were last here" text. If it says "NEW", then it means your browser lost all your cookies. If it has a valid date, then, uh, let me know, because the only way it could happen otherwise is if you changed your password or something.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Have your browser drink less.
My nephew would have understood that without the google, but, then again, he goes to the UFC bar to watch the UFC. I'll stick with google.
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
UFC... bar. OKay, thanks, didn't need to know THAT existed.
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