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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jay the Obscure: [QB] Let me start by saying, you might want to do some reading before posting. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Epoch: [qb]Veers I found no comments anywhere it that link that says that women and young boys were raped. Nor have I heard any such comments on any of the news programs that I watch.[/qb][/QUOTE]Read this.... [QUOTE]Rumsfeld did not describe the photos, but U.S. military officials told NBC News that the unreleased images showed U.S. soldiers severely beating an Iraqi prisoner nearly to death, having sex with a female Iraqi female prisoner and "acting inappropriately with a dead body." The officials said there was also a videotape, apparently shot by U.S. personnel, showing Iraqi guards raping young boys. [URL=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4855930/]MSNBC.com[/URL] [/QUOTE]You should also read this.... [QUOTE]6. (S) I find that the intentional abuse of detainees by military police personnel included the following acts: a. (S) Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet; b. (S) Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees; c. (S) Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing; d. (S) Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time; e. (S) Forcing naked male detainees to wear women�s underwear; f. (S) Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped; g. (S) Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them; h. (S) Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture; i. (S) Writing "I am a Rapest" (sic) on the leg of a detainee alleged to have forcibly raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked; j. (S) Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female Soldier pose for a picture; k. (S) A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee; l. (S) Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee; m. (S) Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees. [URL=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4894001/]Report of Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba[/URL] [/QUOTE]Allegation k is of special interest. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Epoch: [qb]First I have yet to hear of anybody getting phosphorus poured onto them then getting a broom shoved up them.[/qb][/QUOTE]Read this.... [QUOTE]8. (U) In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the circumstances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses (ANNEX 26): a. (U) Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees; b. (U) Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol; c. (U) Pouring cold water on naked detainees; d. (U) Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair; e. (U) Threatening male detainees with rape; f. (U) Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell; g. (U) Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick. h. (U) Using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting a detainee. 9. (U) I have carefully considered the statements provided by the following detainees, which under the circumstances I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses: [URL=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4894001/]Report of Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba[/URL] [/QUOTE]Both a and g are of particular interest here. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Epoch: [qb]And second I've not heard of any old women being ridden.[/qb][/QUOTE]Read this.... [QUOTE]Guards treated woman like donkey: Bush scolds Rumsfeld over abuse controversy The latest allegation involved an elderly Iraqi woman said to have been abused by U.S. military guards. The woman, arrested last July, was reportedly put into a harness and forced to crawl on her hands and knees while a guard rode her donkey-style. British Prime Minister Tony Blair's human rights envoy to Iraq, Ann Clwyd, told the BBC she had investigated the allegation and believed it to be true. The woman was held six weeks and never charged. "She was insulted and told she was a donkey," Clwyd said, noting the woman was forced to wear a harness. "An American rode on her back." Andrew Miga, [URL=http://news.bostonherald.com/international/view.bg?articleid=19191]The Boston Herald[/URL].[/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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