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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Not Invented Here: [QB] Um, just to present a counter-argument to the above, I suggest you do a little research into someone called Kurt Godel and his theories. You are quite welcome to scream at me that Mathematics and it's concept of 'proof' has nothing to do with philosophical truth, but the example of 1+1=2 has been mentioned and personally I think there is an equivalence. But I'm a engineer. Anyway, essentially, Godel proved that you cannot prove 1+1=2. It is assumed as self-evident. While you have said it is true, how do you know it is true? There is no way to prove it within the current system of mathematics. You can add extra rules to maths to prove such a theorem, but then you have to go off and prove those in a never ending cycle... In the end, Mathemeticians assume a small number of 'axioms' such as 0+x=x, 1*x=x, etc. These are taken to be so basic that no-one can possibly argue with them. But you can't prove them. And to me, if you can't prove something basic like 1+1=2, how can you 'prove' that God exists, inside our current realm of understanding? I'm alot more comfortable 'believing' that 1+1=2 than I am in a higher power, but as I said, I'm an engineer, and perhaps thinking about the subject too literally. Even if you disagree, I suggest you do some reading on Godel, if nothing else he was an interesting character. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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