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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wraith: [QB] [QUOTE] This is opposed to the most fundamental logic of the founding fathers, encapsulated so clearly and so succinctly when they said: "We The People . . ." Similarly, someone asked if the colonies had a right to claim their liberty from the crown. Of course the colonies didn't . . . the people, however, did. [/QUOTE]Of course, we have to define 'We The people...' in the context that the 'founding fathers' gave it; white men. Remember, more African Americans and Native Americans, along with many white colonists fought for the UK and Empire. I think I read somewhere that about the same number of colonists supported us (at least initially) as did the rebels. Now, as I understand your position any people have the right to overthrow their government if they do not have liberty, rights, etc. It's kinda ironic that the whole ethos and idea of the British Empire at the time was liberty (for Brits at least). You guys stole it off us!! Also, in a way the Confeds were being deprived of (what they say as) a freedom. The freedom to keep slaves. Also they believed that southern culture and political domination (look at the number of Southern presidents) would be destroyed by the Norths increasing population and industrialisation; they believed they would be oppressed. Or at least the more powerful landowners believed they would lose their political clout. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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