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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jay the Obscure: [QB] I find your claim to have read the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict refreshing and I congratulate you on your citation to the Balfour Declaration of 1917. With all of your reading on the subject, you must then know that the �they [the Palestinian people] started it� argument is simplistic and does nothing to help either understand the roots of the problem or find a solution. That argument places the events of the recent past in a historical vacuum and fails to grasp the social and cultural problems that underlie the current round of violence. In short, it fails to ask or address why these things are happening and as a result it ignores a whole ton of history. I need not cite to a White Paper or United Nations Resolution 181 to point that out. I think the Palestinian people have legitimate grievances. They are of course expressing them entirely in the wrong way as factions support suicide bombers and killing civilians. Moreover, I think that the state of Israel has legitimate grievances that it often expresses in the wrong way with assassinations, continued support of settlements in the occupied territories and killing of civilians. There are complex social, cultural and historical issues going on here which have been far ignored by Omega and, to the extent you�re actually addressing the issues in the debate, you as well. Regarding the apple to oranges argument about California, this is another odd tangent you have a habit of taking. I clearly referenced the Palestinian people and not the area of Palestine. However, back to at least part of the debate at hand, reassessing my opinion regarding the oppression of the Palestinian people, I have come to think that they feel, or at least a portion of them feel, that they are at war. As a result and they feel that they are occupied people. War and occupation has its own set of problems not unlike oppression and many Israeli actions smack of some of the unsavory parts of occupation. But the Palestinian people are not wholly blameless in all the problems afflicting the area. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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