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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Omega: [qb]You really think slaves were treated well? Slaves were not treated well (historically) by anyone. Ever. That's... and amazing display of ignorance.[/QUOTE]Site some examples of when a person is enslaved and is better off than them being free. Plaese. [QUOTE]You really think that just because the new owners of thsese slaves were Hebrew that they were better off? Spiritually, yes. Physically, probably. Israel was for a time a very rich country, and at the very least they'd have a guarentee of not being beaten to death.[/QUOTE]Spiritually? How so? Slaves were not going to be free to follow their own beliefs and worship openly. Your argument is biased on your own beliefs that the hebrew God is the truth. [QUOTE] I made the alalgy with America's slavery of Africans because they used that same bible to justify all their brutality. Hmm... so your chain of reasoning is something like: American slavery claimed it was based on Hebrew slavery; American slavery was wrong; therefore Hebrew slavery was wrong. The problem is that your reasoning is based on the idea that American slaveholders were correct when they claimed their breed of slavery was the same as the Hebrew kind of slavery. I'm arguing that it's not.[/QUOTE]That is your argument, but you still can't explain how being opressed in any way (slavery being the most extreme case) is better than being free to prusue your own goals and beliefs. [QUOTE]And as you pointed out: God would know whats going to happen, so why give slavery of any kind the big thumbs up? Depends on what would have happened otherwise, yes? [/QUOTE]They would have maintained their own culture and they and their children would have lived free? It's not as though all POW's were either enslaves or killed in that region: the Greeks kept slaves but allowed POW's to swear an oath of fealty to them and then released them. That was over 1000 years prior to mono-theism. [QUOTE]If Buhddaists came and enslaved your family, then sold you to Islamists, what would you say? It's OK'd by your god after all. Not unless I was a POW in a war my God told them to start. You're missing the circumstances under which slaves could be taken.[/QUOTE]If your God is the only god then all wars that are said to be the will of god are endorsed by your god. Islamic jihad as well. [QUOTE][i]Who says there is only one Truth?[/i] Logical laws against contradiction?[/QUOTE]Burden of proof is on those trying to prove something's exixtance (in this case your God). Scientifically, you can't prove a negative: you can't prove you're not in a coma dreaming all this, for example. ;) [QUOTE] Actions that led to beliefs. So you're saying that by making people go to church, you make them believe what they hear there? Somehow I doubt the slaves were that weak-minded. [/qb][/QUOTE][b]Not weak minded: Just exposed to only [i]one[/i] sourse for spirituality over 200 years.[/b] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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