Picard did mention that man had evolved to the point where revenge wasn't necessary. If so, then why did the lady (who's name escapes me at the second) end up showing him he wasn't right? Picard did end up admitting that he did want revenge. So, in a way, he said that evolution is a farce.
Now, does that make PERFECT sense or what?
And this, also about First Contact:
The bible says to avoid even the appearence of evil. Certainly paying to listen to profanity and see "mild" adult material has the appearence of evil. As Christians, we shouldn't need this kind of entertainment. I didn't see the movie and wouldn't.
Ooh, and more stunning logic:
The repeated time travel throughout Star Trek shows is extremely unChristian, not to mention the evolutionary themes.
You see? Doctor Who is Satan's work! Lord knows what Sliders is then...
And finally, someone who's lost the plot completely:
I was a Star Trek fan from the original series, and beyond. "First Contact" was exciting entertainment, and even good Star Trek, but since I've been saved, "behold, all things are become new", and I now see God's perspective, and man's sin-nature. Jesus was my "first contact" with His ways and His grace. Now we are on a trek for God, preserving His word and spreading it for others to hear!
And if you want to piss your pants some more:
A Christian view on First Contact
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"Obesity. Adiposity. Corpulence. Whatever word you use, it represents one thing: being a big fatass."
Geraldo Rivera
I'm sure that Christians and Catholics have views on everything from Star Trek to homosexuality. Don't they always? I'm basically used to their views on being gay, even though I don't agree with them and I still go to church on Sundays. I would think that they would have other things to do than to start listing things that should be banned in the world. Where's a prayer meeting when you need one?
As Michael_T would say: "They need more c**k in their lives"
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Sometimes I run
Sometimes I hide
Sometimes I'm scared of you
But all I really want is to hold you tight
Treat you right, be with you day and night
Baby all I need is time
-Britney Spears
Sorry to every pre-teen, teenager and even adult out there, this show is a major distraction to your relationship with Jesus
Yup. Bad Christian boy.
So Buffy and her chest -- oh sorry -- didn't anyone notice her breasts? They're only in every shot.
Well, except the ones from here back. And the ones she's not in. And the ones where she's removed her breasts and left them in the dressing room.
Buffy's friend is a practising witch. Hello? Wake up. There is no such thing as white magic. Any supernatural power outside of God is demonic and has roots to Satan.
Of course, the best thing is the openmindedness.
to be fair, the other review was spot on, saying it a well written TV series comparting the battle of good and evil to the battle of youth vs the adult world that isn't always Christian. Which is more sensible that Mr fruit cake up there.
BTW, we're not talking about all Christians here. Just these ones.
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"Sorry Wendy, I jsu can't trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."
Mr Garrison
They promote homosexuality as "ok" and one episode had a lesbian wedding.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
The character Pheobe dabbles in witchcraft and is involved in new age ideas, and Ross promotes Evolution and in one episode makes Phoebe feel stupid for believing in Creation.
Now, I watched that ep. Can someone point out to me the moment when Pheobe says that she believes in Creation?
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"Sorry Wendy, I jsu can't trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."
Mr Garrison
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"I've never seen anything this beautiful in the entire galaxy. Alright, give me the bomb" -Ultra Magnus, Fight or Flee
Does this person represent a large group of influential people who will take over the govenrnment and decide the only things safe for viewing is Bible stories and Veggie tales? I don't think so, and if you do, I'm concerned you don't get out enough.
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"Politicians and diapers should be changed regularly, for the same reason."
--(Unknown)[B]
Come Hither and Yawn...
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"Politicians and diapers should be changed regularly, for the same reason."
--(Unknown)[B]
Come Hither and Yawn...
It's the culture too. I heard that when they made a US Men Behaving Badly, the characters stopped smoking, and really cut down on drinking too. Red Dwarf; Lister largely stopped smoking in later seasons to help sell the show to the US. The Royale Family is being made in the US, and no-one will smoke in it. And probably not say "Religion, my arse!" either.
It does seem to be a very large and well organised site. And you do hear horror stories in teh UK of the dreaded American religious fundamentalist. We use it to keep childen awake at night.
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"Sorry Wendy, I jsu can't trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."
Mr Garrison
Did you guys check out the "intelligent life on other planets" article? There are some real winners in that one.
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--Then, said Cranly, do you not intend to become a protestant?
--I said that I had lost the faith, Stephen answered, but not that I had lost self-respect. What kind of liberation would that be to forsake an absurdity which is logical and coherent and to embrace one which is illogical and incoherent?
James Joyce, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.
"OH NO! I've been deceived by Gene Roddenbery into becoming a SATANIST!!!"
Dane immediately burns his Star Trek video collection, his tech manual library, and his USS Enterprise-E commemorative space-sickness bag. He then becomes a monk and spends the rest of his life staring into his navel and contemplating his own holiness.)
Yeah, right...
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Dane
"...and there was war in heaven..." The Bible, Revelation 12:7
When faced with those who turn out such arguments as that website does there is only one sane response, and it involves rubbing your pursed lips with a finger whilst going wibblely-bibble-bibbbble at high volume.
Actually, I do have a problem with Buffy the Non-human lifeform skewerer. What kind of a moral message is it to have a heroine who chases down beings hunting for their only food supply, whips out a wooden spike and murders them thusly. Yeah, they're vampires, but so bloody what? She found one she liked enough to shag, so what does that say to the morality of all her other slayings? And don't give me this "soul" crap.
Ach, it's a dumb TV show anyway. Ultraviolet is a thousand times better, and that's because it made you think which side was truly "evil".
Now then, if we are to continue our descent into the clutches of the dark prince I demand I get to do some truly shocking raping and pillaging before teatime.
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"I cannot live out that life.
That man is bereft of passion... and imagination!
That is not who I am!"
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Fool of a Took, throw yourself in next time!!
Gandalf
Anyway, these people will all be deported to Iran when I'm finally entrenched as Dictator.
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Calvin: "No efficiency, no accountability... I tell you, Hobbes, it's a lousy way to run a Universe." -- Bill Watterson
Well, she hasn't been trying to prove that Star Trek is Satan, but has been trying to say that Star Trek is a horrible influence and it is ruining my life and prospects as a CEO-in-training of a big corporation.......
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I can resist anything.......
Except Temptation
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Sometimes I run
Sometimes I hide
Sometimes I'm scared of you
But all I really want is to hold you tight
Treat you right, be with you day and night
Baby all I need is time
-Britney Spears
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"I've never seen anything this beautiful in the entire galaxy. Alright, give me the bomb" -Ultra Magnus, Fight or Flee
And that website is zonkers, if you ask me. 
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Elim Garak: "Oh, it's just Garak. Plain, simple Garak. Now, good day to you, Doctor. I'm so glad to have made such an... interesting new friend today." (DS9: "Past Prologue")
Actually, didn't Pheobe think that aliens might have planted the fossils? So does that put her on the good or bad side in this site's eyes?
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"Sorry Wendy, I jsu can't trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."
Mr Garrison
Come on, IT IS still a STAR TREK movie we're talking about right? If SFC is indeed evil, then I dare to ask, WHAT IS NOT? If you truly want to stop "evil" believes, why not spent more efforts in a place where people most likey to need it? And SFC is DEFINATELY one of the less violent films over the year!
GEEZ, and to think how many people are suffering from all kinds of causes that is suppose to be save by Christianity when they have time to sit infront of a computer maybe take a sip of coffee(oh no! don't tell me that coffee is evil too!!) and type up a "review", what a time well spent!!
"They're EVERYWHERE!"
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Dane
"...and there was war in heaven..." The Bible, Revelation 12:7
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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.
-Jack Handey
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Calvin: "No efficiency, no accountability... I tell you, Hobbes, it's a lousy way to run a Universe." -- Bill Watterson
-FTM
P.S. the purple tellytubby is Satanic!!
P.S.S. this is my 250th post!! yeah
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"I'm not feeling alright today, I'm not feeling that great"
These are the same people who tried to ban comic books back in the 40's-60's, who tried to ban Elvis and Batman and Halloween dress-up and dances, and cancel proms because the student body wants to have the Indigo Girls play or chooses the theme "We are the Champions" by that group Queen *gasp!*
****ing Idiots.
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Calvin: "No efficiency, no accountability... I tell you, Hobbes, it's a lousy way to run a Universe." -- Bill Watterson
Anyway, Some people belong to "Christian" groups that hold very extreme beliefs. This isn't rare in Christianity either. I know a few family that don't even own TVs and stuff like that.
But my Bio prof loves Trek and wears Trek ties to class sometimes. It's definitely not a normal thing, but some Christians today see the world and decide to totally live outside of it the best they can. This is actually an unbiblical concept (from a Wesleyan viewpt.) and this kind of living has been highly denounced in the past.
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Peace on Earth
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"Go Lucifer! Use your 'convert Christians to evil using FOX TV' attack!"
"Luci. Luci-Lucifer!"
Christian: "Ah, no! I have watched FOX. My soul is now tainted, and I must go and run over small kittens."
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"Sorry Wendy, I just can't trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."
Mr Garrison
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"I'm not feeling alright today, I'm not feeling that great"
(I'm sorry, I couldn't resist, it's a pet peeve of mine)
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"I'm so happy cause today I found my friends. They're in my head." - Kurt Cobain
Lithium, Nirvana
And people wonder why i dont associate with many people.
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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.
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"She's just as bored as me." - Kurt Cobain
Polly, Nirvana
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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.
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Dane
"...and there was war in heaven..." The Bible, Revelation 12:7
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"She's just as bored as me." - Kurt Cobain
Polly, Nirvana
Well, not exactly. But full of bad language. Vioence we do try to avoid. And sex? It's neveer a bad thing is it?
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"Sorry Wendy, I just can't trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."
Mr Garrison
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Dane
"...and there was war in heaven..." The Bible, Revelation 12:7
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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.
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Dane
"...and there was war in heaven..." The Bible, Revelation 12:7
I do not follow as blindly as others, sure i believe in god, but i Am a firm beleiver in Evolution and student of numerous sciences such as genetics and several other contraversial sciences.
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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.
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*smile*
~LOA
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"The battle is raging inside my weary heart
screaming for me to let it all go...
My body is weak and I can't take the struggle anymore...
the love that was here is filled up by anger and rage..." ~FOM
All the Catholics I know are very open minded. And interestingly, the only ones who don't believe in sex out of marrage are the ones who've never had a girlfriend.
Actually, we're mainly Catholic by upbringong, but most of my mates prefer the term "Christian". Or don't say that they follow any one religion in particular, but that they believe in God. Or something. Or that they can't make up their minds at the moment. They'll deceide when it's time.
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"Sorry Wendy, I just can't trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."
Mr Garrison
We are the Religious. You will lower your hemlines and surrender your devil music. Resistance is futile. If you attempt to resist us, God will get you. And if He doesn't, we're sure we can find someone among us who will be happy to do it for Him. From this moment on, you will adapt to service God (and His duly self-appointed representatives.)
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Calvin: "No efficiency, no accountability... I tell you, Hobbes, it's a lousy way to run a Universe." -- Bill Watterson
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Peace on Earth
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If anyone here feels so attached to me that they would like to name something in my honor please contact Asbury College and donate money for furniture in the new Kinlaw Library. :)
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"I'd rather be dead than cool" - Kurt Cobain
Stay Away, Nirvana
Of course, I'm a non-denominational protestant, so maybe I'm just weird?
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"Politicians and diapers should be changed regularly, for the same reason."
--(Unknown)
Come Hither and Yawn...
Believe whatever you want, nut don't force it onto other people!
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So small,
so innocent,
so young,
so delicately done,
grown up in your poison.
"Little Baby Swastikkka"
-Skunk Anansie
I'm kidding.... hehehe... and speaking of non-denominational, that's where I am, too! Talk about something that pisses my family off.... you'd think I was in some sort of psychotic cult....! (Really, I think their big problem is the fact that I'm happy now... it's an awful thing to see happen in your daughter, you know....)
~LOA
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"When the toast is burnin', all the milk has turned'
and Captain Crunch is waving farewell....
When the big one finds you, may this song remind you
that they don't serve breakfast in Hell!" ~Newsboys, Breakfast
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Sean Robertson
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"Great is the glory for the strife is hard"
- Wordsworth
"Why must I be surrounded by frickin' idiots?"
- Dr Evil
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"Hello darkness my old friend,
I've come to talk with you again....." ~Simon & Garfunkle, The Sound of Silence
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I am not responsible for the stupidity of other people.
Officially, the Catholic Church supports liberal issues (liberal as in open-minded, not in the wacked out government sense), except for issues like abortion and gay marriages. But then you'd find Catholic churches/people that range from liberal to moderate to conservative, like anywhere else. As for sex and violence, I don't see why it's so surprising that some Catholics don't follow the rules. Can you say that all Christians who aren't Catholics do?
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--Then, said Cranly, do you not intend to become a protestant?
--I said that I had lost the faith, Stephen answered, but not that I had lost self-respect. What kind of liberation would that be to forsake an absurdity which is logical and coherent and to embrace one which is illogical and incoherent?
James Joyce, A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.