1: Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared National Emergency.
2: Under a state of National Emergency, the president has the authority to declare martial law.
Let us all hope and pray that Clinton does not discover these two facts...
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"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
-- Adolph Hitler, 1933
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"We can't really say we feel comfortable in Los Angeles, because we don't." - John Flansburgh
I imagine that on his last day in office he'll declare martial law and take over Ohio, at the very least due to Ohio's vast natural resources and the mighty play of the Cincinnati Reds, and turn the state into a giant pot growing wide hippy commune. This commune of course will consist of state wide health care, but only for people with hangnails, he'll take away people's assualt weapons (which are only used for hunting purposes anyway) and he'll socialize bicycle riding.
Why? Well because he can!
This is beyond silly.
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Oh, goody, the Sea Monkeys I ordered have arrived. Heh heh heh, look at them cavort and caper.
~C. Montgomery Burns
And be sure to visit The Field Marshal project http://fieldmarshal.virtualave.net/
And I'd be more worried about him skipping an election or three. I don't care what he does. A benign dictator is still a dictator, and again, the price of freedom is eternal vigelance. And Clinton is hardly benign.
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"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
-- Adolph Hitler, 1933
Man, do you have it wrong...
It's state wide "ORGY" and weird dildos for ladies working for the federal government!
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Okey, okey, here's my question:
If you are an immortal, do you "rot" simply because of the
nuclear decay of the Carbon-14 particles inside your body?
nevermind.
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"Life's a bitch, then you die"
-USS Luzon, Vanderbuilt Class starship
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"Blind faith is the crutch of fools"
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"Oh, it's an anti-anti-WTO song. It's essentially a pro-Starbucks song. I saw this picture of a guy sticking his foot through a plate-glass window in a Starbucks in Seattle, and he was wearing a Nike. Man, couldn't you just change your shoes?"
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M. Doughty
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Remember December '59
The howling wind and the driving rain,
Remember the gallant men who drowned
On the lifeboat, Mona was her name.
Well, considering that I just found out that they all had the authority to do so last night, no, I wasn't. And I don't think that we've had one besides Clinton that's enough of a sleezeball to take advantage of it.
"In short, do you REALLY think he's going to have a national crackdown. On what basis would he have one anyway?"
I don't REALLY think he will. But I really think he would, if he could, safely. As for reason, he'd trump something up. He always does. 'Course, chances are someone would shoot him within twenty minutes if he tried it...
Source: http://www.commonlink.com/~olsen/COMMON/factfict.html
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"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
-- Adolph Hitler, 1933
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Oops.
Well, elect me dictator and I'll fix that.
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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi
Also, I think the US is still technically at war with North Korea.
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"We can't really say we feel comfortable in Los Angeles, because we don't." - John Flansburgh
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As far as the "state of emergency" goes, that is also a fact. Ever notice how many executive orders have issued forth from the office of the president? He has no authority to do so unless a state of emergency is in effect. Unfortunately, I suppose that World War II distracted everyone from the failure to rescind the original declaration. After all, the war was an emergency, wasn't it? And so was recovery from the war, and the Berlin crisis, and the Korean war, and the red scare, and... well, just about everything since!
I suppose someone ought to bring this up in congress and declare the emergency over. If something's the normal state of affairs, it isn't an emergency. It's "business as usual".
--Baloo
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"Blind faith is the crutch of fools"
The previous post has surpassed the Illogic Criterion for thread conversations.
Please clarify or refrain from further comment.
Thank you
*automsg off*
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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi
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"We can't really say we feel comfortable in Los Angeles, because we don't." - John Flansburgh
And yet, Daryus brings up a valid point. Despite years under these emergency powers or as the eminent Dr. Schroder (Colorado farmer, veterinarian, political philosopher) calls it "unconstitutional dictatorship" from Roosevelt to Truman to Nixon, suddenly Omega thinks the United States is going to be taken over by Bill Clinton. Through the use of martial law no less.
Why? For what reason? Do we just hate Bill Clinton that much? Really, what proof does offer Omega, hard proof and not right-wing speculation, that the singular presidnecy of Bill Clinton has eroded our rights to this great of an extent. Why exactly is it that I can expect Clinton all by his liberal self to roll tanks down my street next week when even Nixon in the midst of social and political strife failed to do so?
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Oh, goody, the Sea Monkeys I ordered have arrived. Heh heh heh, look at them cavort and caper.
~C. Montgomery Burns
And be sure to visit The Field Marshal project http://fieldmarshal.virtualave.net/
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"Oh, it's an anti-anti-WTO song. It's essentially a pro-Starbucks song. I saw this picture of a guy sticking his foot through a plate-glass window in a Starbucks in Seattle, and he was wearing a Nike. Man, couldn't you just change your shoes?"
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M. Doughty
And exactly why do you think Nixon was so bad? Nixon at least had some respect for his office and for the people of this country. He had the decency to resign. Clinton has neither. There's no comparison.
The reason I'm worried about Clinton taking over is that he's shown time and time again that he couldn't care less about the constitution that he swore to uphold. All of the presidents COULD. Bill Clinton WOULD, if it suited his purpose. But again, there are still enough people in this country that care about their freedom that SOMEONE'd shoot him, so I don't actually expect him to. The point is that he could, and no one should have that power.
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"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
-- Adolph Hitler, 1933
However, if you consider what's been going on as a battle of attrition over the past 30-50 years or so, done by small increments, then a pattern begins to emerge. Do you think it would have been so easy to stomach Clinton, had not others paved the way for him?
Then the question might be asked, who is Clinton paving the way for?
Billy knows his job, and he does it very well. I'll leave it up to you to figure out just what that job really is. Nixon and Clinton are just two sides of the same coin, and the only thing worth noting in the next election is which side the coin flips on to this time.
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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi
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...is that he's shown time and time again that he couldn't care less about the constitution that he swore to uphold. All of the presidents COULD. Bill Clinton WOULD, if it suited his purpose.
To quote the man who brings me more good music recomendations than Daryus has personalities in his head:
"Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
*deep breath*
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!"
I ask for specific examples and I get "time and time again" and 'he would if he could if only the time suited his evil plan'.
So, let's list in order his nefarious purposes of his evil plan.
1) ?
2) ??
3) ???
Again, something is either missing in the right-wing agenda or Rush didn't give out his list for ditto heads to read this week.
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Oh, goody, the Sea Monkeys I ordered have arrived. Heh heh heh, look at them cavort and caper.
~C. Montgomery Burns
And be sure to visit The Field Marshal project http://fieldmarshal.virtualave.net/
An interesting combination of strawman and ad hominem, IINM. AFAIK, Rush doesn't even know about this. 'Course, I haven't been listening lately, so...
Anyway, you want a list of the things he's done to circmvent the constitution, and other wise just not do his job, well...
Nuclear Test Ban treaty. He claimed that we'd still follow it, even though it hadn't been ratified.
Letting Janet Reno keep her job after Waco, and ESPECIALLY after the illegal raid on the Gonzales'.
Claiming the non-existant "executive privelage".
Commission of perjury, obstruction of justice, and contempt of court.
He once stated that "It's not [the people's] money" and "We don't think they'll spend it the right way". Can you say "communist"?
All of the above show that he couldn't care less about the constitution and country he swore to defend.
As for his purposes, he wants power. Plain and simple.
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"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
-- Adolph Hitler, 1933
Nope. Just two roads to the same destination. Haven't you ever noticed how many top people from BOTH parties belong to the same organizations? (And no, I'm not talking about the Freemasons.)
Nixon got us to fear the government. Prepared us for abuses of power by doing it first, and suffering illusory consequences.
Ford was a fallback position. Breathing room.
Carter was a largely inneffectual, but still feel-good respite a 'lull' as it were.
Reagan got us to contradict ourselves by LIKING the same government we mistrusted, cause he was 'such a likable fellow' despite things like Iran-Contra.
Bush got us prepared for the "New World Order" (his words first).
Clinton has accustomed us to further governmental abuse of power.
Next...
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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi
As for the protection of peoples rights, I don't know that those evil liberals are out to throw you into a gulag matey Please list, in this thread the particular rights the left (so called, the democrats are nowhere near true left, just a little further left that the repubs, which is not even at center, if you get my drift) has removed omega. I'd be interested to know exactly how they have stepped towards a Chinese like state.
-If any of the above is jumbled, note that this is being written @ 3am after I have returned from the necessary public fraternisation-.
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"Remeber, if there is a nuclear explosion, be sure to close your windows as the massive heat could cause objects within your home to catch fire".
Wise, wise words.
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Check out some of the occupations of the Congressmen of the early US, and compare that to the overwhelming lawyer-ism and career-policianism of today's Congress.
No, if we're going to create an Oligarchy, it shouldn't be made up of the people who are the best at manipulating the system for their own purposes. (But of course, THOSE are the people with the most at stake to build an oligarchy in the first place.)
Meritocracy is ideal, but how do we judge?
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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi
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Fool of a Took, throw yourself in next time!!
Gandalf
>"Don got a notice in the mail from his bank that his account had been attached by the IRS. No notice, no warning, no reason, no appeal. Bob owned a piece of land some distance from his home. When he visited it, he found that it had been confiscated by the government because they had found illegal drug activity on it. He had to prove he was not involved and had no knowledge of it before he could have his land back."
I'd call that unreasonable search and seizure.
>"If you are found with more than $10,000 cash on your person, it can be confiscated. You must prove how you earned it and that it is legally yours."
That, too.
>"A crippled old black man was in bed asleep one night when a drug squad burst in and sprayed him with bullets. They claimed he was resisting arrest. The squad had a tip that a young man who sometimes visited the elderly gentleman was into drugs, but the young man didn't live there and in fact, wasn't there that night. The slain man's son, a well-known sports figure, demonstrated on TV how crippled his father was and how he would have had to go through a series of slow and painful maneuvers to even sit up on the side of the bed."
If that's not a violation of the right to exist, what is?
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"Nobody knows this, but I'm scared all the time... of what I might do, if I ever let go." -- Michael Garibaldi
I try to raise the level of conversation in here. It's not easy. It appears to be bolted to the floor.
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I think 1st of 2 is doing an excellent job of explaining the situation.
Daryus: It's not that anyone's afraid the neogestapo is going to start breaking down doors any minute. Rather it's the possibility that since things are "only a little broken" nothing will be done to restore the status to its proper quo.
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The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
In other words, if you don't clean house regularly (in the benign sense, folks. Since when have I ever recommended violence as a first resort?) sooner or later you're either gonna have a big mess to clean up or you're gonna have to move (if that 12-foot-high stack of old newspapers doesn't fall on you first).
--Baloo
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-- Me
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28th Amendment
The president of the United States shall respond to my unbending will only.
29th Amendment
Section 1: Article II Section 2 of this Constitution reading "The president shall be commander in chief of the army and navy of the United States" is hereby repealed.
Section 2: The president of the United State, in conforming to Amemdment 28 shall no longer have the right to order the Armed Forces of the United States to do anything.
Section 3: Specifically enumerated prohibitions include ordering the Armed Forces of the United States to cease testing nuclear weapons.
30th Amendment
Conforming to Amemdment 28, the president of the United States must fire people in his cabinet when I say so.
31st Amendment
Section 1: The judicial and governmental concept of checks and balances is hereby repealed.
Section 2: Executive privelage means what I say it means and the President of the United States is hereby prohibited from claiming such.
Section 3: The Federal Courts of the United States, conforming to Section 1 of this Amendment, are hereby excluded from rendering decisions on the legality of presidential assertions of executive privdelage.
Section 4: Conforming to Section 1 of this Amendment, as a citizen of the United States, I reserve the right to go thought the underwear drawer of the President of the United States at any time I choose.
32nd Amendment
Section 1: The section of the 5th Amendment reading "due process of law" is hereby repealed. Furthermore, it means what I say it means as that I am the one true law in the country.
Section 2: Lawyerly obfuscation to poorly framed and poorly worded questions asked during political witch hunts, a right granted to the population at large, is hereby prohibited to the president and is punishable by death.
Section 3: The president shall never have sex.
Section 4: If the president has sex, he shall be required to fill out a full public disclosure document.
33rd Amendment
Section 1: Diversity is hereby repudiated in the United States.
Section 2: Having found that a plurality of ideas to be a bad thing, McCarthyism is hereby reinstated.
34th Amendment
Section 1: This Amendment is intended as a clarification of Article II Section 2 of the Constitution of the United States regarding presidential duties.
Section 2: When the Republican party or other member of the right-wing establishment is not in control of the office of President of the United State through duly constituted public elections, conforming to the auspices layed out in the Constitution of the United States, the Democrat elected to the office of President through free and peaceful elections is only there for his own personal power grab.
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Oh, goody, the Sea Monkeys I ordered have arrived. Heh heh heh, look at them cavort and caper.
~C. Montgomery Burns
And be sure to visit The Field Marshal project http://fieldmarshal.virtualave.net/
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Baloo, I understood -quite well- what he meant by 'the price of freedom is eternal vigialance' however I just feel that you are being a tad paranoid.
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"Remeber, if there is a nuclear explosion, be sure to close your windows as the massive heat could cause objects within your home to catch fire".
Wise, wise words.
For those unfamiliar with American history, the depression was a crippling economic flux (the product of anarchist capitalist production) which struck America in 1929 (this world wide economic depression racked the western countries, except for the USSR, to the point where demagogic leaders were able to take power, notably in Germany) and brought the country to its knees. Although it was already a poor economy, the 1920s are reffered to as the "Roaring 20s" because of how the elite were living fast, thanks to land speculation and other quick fixes. The stock market crashed in October of '29, and Herbert Hoover decided to let it correct itself. Hoover, himself a "fascist" who was responsible for attacking the Bonus Marchers, and his Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon (who was well versed in destroying the working class) were ardent believers in the laissez-faire principles of economics. Hoover urged "patriotic sacrifice," at least for the poor, never bothering to ask the wealthy to sacrifice. Thus newspapers came to be called "Hoover Blackets" etc. Come the midterm elections the Democrats were swept into Congress, yet Hoover still resisted change. He did, however, initiate some trickle-down policies, helping banks and railroads. Come November 1932, the people (and the elite) were sick of the depression, so they elected Franklin Delano Roosevelt. However, during the time between the election and the inauguration, the state of affairs deteriorated so much that it could only be called a state of emergency.
"I shall ask the Congress for the remaining instrument to meet the crisis - broad executive power to wage a war against the emergency as great as the power that would be given me if we were in fact invaded by a foreign foe." Franklin D. Roosevelt
That is a quote from his innauguration address on the 4th of March. On the 9th FDR called a special session of Congress in which a four-day banking holidy was declared, and within 7 hours the Emergency Banking Relief Act was passed by Congress. By March 15th, banks controlling 9/10 of the nation's banking resources were once again open. The crisis, my friends, was over. Yet only for the banks. While the capitalist economy was now safe, the people had nothing. Thus, Roosevelt, a tool of the ruling elite, enacted certain legislations which were designed to keep the working people passive. This was known as the New Deal.
Some elements of the New Deal (although it was neither new or a deal) included:
The Agricultural Adjustment Act (AAA, passed 12/5/33) compensated farmers for voluntary cutbacks in production in an effort to restore farm prices to "parity" (granted, we could've distributed food for free to the people, but...)
The National Recovery Administration (NRA, part of the NIRA passed on 16/6/33) was established for two rather controversial purposes. 1, stabilize business through a code of "fair" competitive practices, 2, to generate more purchasing power by providing jobs, defining labour standards, and raising wages. Committees in each major industry were created - comprised of management, labour, and government - to draw up codes of practice. These includes such communist ideas as the 40 hour work week, and a minimum weekly wage of $13 ($12 in the South where COL was cheaper) as well as an end to child labour. Although the NRA would last only until 1936, those last three ideas were thus engrained.
Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA, passed 18/5/33) was created which was a public utility, essentially, that built dams and providing, among other things, cheap electric and jobs to people in the poorest region of the country.
My favourite was the CCC, or the Civilian Conservation Corps, which was designed to give work to unemployed and unmarried young men agaed 18-25. They worked under military like conditions in green causes.
That is about it. As you can see, none of them were at all leftist (the closest thing this country had to a leftist on the main political scene, Huey P. Long, was also FDR's biggest critic) but they were somewhat progressive. The country did not collapse, as was expected, and by the time the war began, America was ready for full scale production.
There is your brief history on FDR and the reason for the state of emergency. As you can tell, if FDR is considered the most left president in American history, this country has a sorry history of a left. That is why I ask you folks not to refer to the democrats as left wing. As one professor mine (hailing originally from Germany) said, there is a true left, and an American left. The American version is a joke. Left is not Al Gore. Al Gore is a right wing politician. Leftwing is Ralph Nader and John LeClair.
And also, I was hoping Omega could clarify for me that little thing known as Watergate. Simon rarely brings anything to a political discussion, but for once, he hit it on the head (by ripping off my Neil Young obsession, of course). Nixon resigned because he was about to be impeached for subverting the democratic process. If he didn't do it then, it ain't gonna happen now.
I now return myself to a life of meditation on top of a hill. Perhaps Daryus will alert me next time I am needed. But as you all know, anytime my skills must be called upon, simply summon me and I will rise for the working man.
Liam - Please don't let them in on me having a social life, I cannot let them find out! My opinions and facts will be discredited. No, that's not a girlfriend I'm shoving under the desk right now. Don't look there.
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"Remeber, if there is a nuclear explosion, be sure to close your windows as the massive heat could cause objects within your home to catch fire".
Wise, wise words.
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And now, for the democratic response:
Jay's Amendment XXX: The President, the The Federal government, and the members thereof, have the right to do pretty much whatever they please, any time they please, to whomever they please, as long as they claim legality under the illusory spectres of "national security," "executive privelege," or, to quote Nixon, "if the President does it, that means it isn't illegal." If this includes sending otherwise innocent people to a premature demise, so be it. "Terror must be maintained, or the Empire will fall."
Jay's Amendment XXXI: Anyone disagreeing with the stands that the President or Government takes will be labeled any or all of the following: racist, homophobic, right-wing paranoid, dangerous, selfish, psychotic. They may then be disregarded and dealt with (destroyed) as any other threat.
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Er, being commander-in-chief doesn't really mean you have either the knowledge OR the authority to decide what troops should do, it doesn't give you the ability to declare war, and hence, gives you no real authority to send troops abroad.
Hey, I don't mind if the president has sex (as if that was what they were really investigating him for, and not lying under oath, fraud, obstruction of justice, criminal conspiracy, etc)... but could he at least confine his activities to one wife and one mistress, like the rest of us?
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At any rate, I haven't been called anything close to a reactionary since I was a junior republican in high school. *shudder* But I got over that thank goodness.
And as to the "special" Amendments, please note First, they weren't really mine, rather they were crayoned in on the back of some other people's version of their Constitution. In other words, even though some folks say they are for a strict reading of that profound document, they have basically added these to that reading.
I think you may have mixed up your response regarding Special right-wing Amendment 30 and 31. It was it was Amendment 31 that refered to executive privelage. Regardless of whether Clinton claims belly button lint private under executive privelage, we have a federal court system that will make the final determination. That is the way our system works. And God bless it.
It called checks and balances folks. So I don't particularly care that Nixon claimed privelage and did not turn over the White House tapes to Congress exactly when they asked for them. Welcome to the game of politics. What I care about far more is that he complied ladies and gentlemen when ordered to by a court of law. The White House lost in that round of the executive privelage dating game. Just as Clinton won some and lost some.
It is interesting to keep in mind that the Constitution does not specifically make any reference to a "presidnetial cabinet" and that it was during Andrew Jackson's presidency that the the term was coined and still back further that secretaries of war and treasury ect. were created.
You say fire Reno, well bear in mind that Congress has the power to investigate and fight for the removal of executive appointees and that process is going on even as I type over Waco. So just cause she pissed ya off doesn't mean that you scrap the system when radio personalities say so.
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Anyone disagreeing with the stands that the President or Government takes will be labeled any or all of the following: racist, homophobic, right-wing paranoid, dangerous, selfish, psychotic.
Well, color me tickled pink and a racist dangerous psychotic then Ned cause I disagree with many of the stands taken by our current beloved president. But goodness gracious, we live in a system where I, yes , I can vote against him during the next election!!
To paraphrase Sideshow Bob, Republican Senator Les Whinen ought to do more thinking and less whining! Your problems shouldn't be a gut renching hatred of Bill Clinton, rather it should be with the system that gave us Bob Dole and Bill Clinton to vote for. Or George "W for White Line Fever" Bush, or Al "I Invented The Internet" Gore.
And now to your other assertions First; no Clinton isn't going to order Airman Smith at March Airforce Base to tie his shoelaces, but he has the authority to order the armed forces to do something rather big, like oh, stop testing nuclear weapons.
And yeah, it was over-the-top, sometimes it has to be to get a point across.
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Oh, goody, the Sea Monkeys I ordered have arrived. Heh heh heh, look at them cavort and caper.
~C. Montgomery Burns
And be sure to visit The Field Marshal project http://fieldmarshal.virtualave.net/
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And if a person can tell me where those political terms come from you'll receive "5" Bryce points!
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"We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men."
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The Jacobins later eliminated the Girondist opposition, executed Louis XVI and then formed the Committee of Public Safety, a cabinet that dominated the convention. This committee was dominated by the likes of Robespierre, Danton, Marat and Carnot.
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Oh, goody, the Sea Monkeys I ordered have arrived. Heh heh heh, look at them cavort and caper.
~C. Montgomery Burns
And be sure to visit The Field Marshal project http://fieldmarshal.virtualave.net/
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Oh, goody, the Sea Monkeys I ordered have arrived. Heh heh heh, look at them cavort and caper.
~C. Montgomery Burns
And be sure to visit The Field Marshal project http://fieldmarshal.virtualave.net/
Like me!
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"While it is true that 15% of home accidents are caused by large penis related incidents, only a small number have ever been known to be fatal."
At least I think Brazil was a send-up of 1984. The plotline was rather similar. Animal farm was good, too.
And eternal vigilance applies to driving as well, so it's not paranoia, it's common sense. Whenever dealing with things of great importance (your safety, freedom, how long has the mayo been out of the fridge, etc.) it's a good idea to pay attention.
--Baloo
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"Nice guys finish last? I'll say we do!
(Sometimes we last for hours.)"
-- Me
http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/
Of course, one could spend hours and hours trying to decode all of the movie's various symbols.
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"While it is true that 15% of home accidents are caused by large penis related incidents, only a small number have ever been known to be fatal."
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We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the
obvious is the first duty of intelligent men."
George Orwell
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"Remeber, if there is a nuclear explosion, be sure to close your windows as the massive heat could cause objects within your home to catch fire".
Wise, wise words.
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John Linnell: "This next song is from our album 'The Spaghetti Incident.' And...it's actually a new song."
*several seconds pass*
Audience Member: "Oh, I get it..."
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"Remeber, if there is a nuclear explosion, be sure to close your windows as the massive heat could cause objects within your home to catch fire".
Wise, wise words.
Overall it involved several things. Quite a few years poor rule by an elitist king and French nobility culminating in the wrong king (Louis XVI and his dear Marie Antionette) in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Also mixed into the pot was the creation of a constitutional monarchy in England in 1688-89 during the Glorious Revolution bringing about the deposition of James II and the accession of William III and MARY II who accepted the Bill of Rights in 1689 and the by the Act of Settlement in 1701 which placed limits on the authority of the monarchy.
Moreover the extention of some of the of ideas and political philosophy of the Glorious Revolution were brought to the colonies in the America fomenting what was mostly a political and economic revolution followed by the creation of a new nation state.
There were however many social undertones to the American Revolution and several of these ideas were brought to France through the auspices of the rightings of Thomas Paine, the political thought of the American Declaration of Independence, and the presence in France of several great American thinkers like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson and the French nobleman the Marquis de Lafayette.
Oh, and what Frank said, the Girondists sat on the right and the Jacobins sat on the left. There was also a group called the Mountain who sat high up in the seats.
You wanted to know how it all came about.
Good history is more than simple trivia.
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Oh, goody, the Sea Monkeys I ordered have arrived. Heh heh heh, look at them cavort and caper.
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No way! Utter nonsense. You can sum up the whole history of mankind in a set of trivial pursuit cards.
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"Remeber, if there is a nuclear explosion, be sure to close your windows as the massive heat could cause objects within your home to catch fire".
Wise, wise words.
And while where at it, just what has India done for me lately!!
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Oh, goody, the Sea Monkeys I ordered have arrived. Heh heh heh, look at them cavort and caper.
~C. Montgomery Burns
And be sure to visit The Field Marshal project http://fieldmarshal.virtualave.net/
I wonder how long we can keep this up without coming out and insulting each other. OOH.
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"Remeber, if there is a nuclear explosion, be sure to close your windows as the massive heat could cause objects within your home to catch fire".
Wise, wise words.
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"No children have ever meddled with the Republican Party and have lived to tell about it." Sideshow Bob
As to Australia, well I'm still working on that one.
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Oh, goody, the Sea Monkeys I ordered have arrived. Heh heh heh, look at them cavort and caper.
~C. Montgomery Burns
And be sure to visit The Field Marshal project http://fieldmarshal.virtualave.net/
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"Remeber, if there is a nuclear explosion, be sure to close your windows as the massive heat could cause objects within your home to catch fire".
Wise, wise words.
Can anyone verify if the legislation mentioned has been introduced? If so, what is its current status? It sounds like something that would have to be passed by a veto-proof margin to be effective -- after all, I can't see Clinton signing a bill that limits his power.
~~Baloo
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Beer lovers take note:
Stroh's spelled backwards is "shorts."
http://www.geocities.com/cyrano_jones.geo/
At any rate, I am somewhat disturbed that the good senator from Idaho appears to have absolutely no concept of what the office of the President really does.
From that wacky Constitution, Article II, Section 3:
quote:
He shall from time to time give to the Congress information of the state of the Union, and recommend to their consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in case of disagreement between them, with respect to the time of adjournment, he may adjourn them to such time as he shall think proper; he may receive ambassadors, and other public ministers; he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and shall commission all the officers of the United States.
I am dying to know how the President will carry out his Constitutionally mandated duty of enforcing the laws of the United States when the agency for such enforcement is removed. Harsh language, perhaps?
My favorite part is where the page says the legislation will "Prohibit all executive orders not expressly authorized by statute or the U.S. Constitution.", and then later admits 'Unfortunately, the Constitution defines presidential powers very generally; and nowhere does it define, much less limit, the power of a president to rule by executive order...'
Topping it all off is this: "(The bill will) Require a cost-benefit analysis and a public comment period before an executive order can take effect."
Right. And this is to ensure that all such orders are Constitutional? And this is expected to work? Two executive orders for you.
EO9066: Signed by FDR, it provided for the internment of American citizens of Japanese descent. One of the darkest stains on the history of the United States. Are we supposed to assume that an analysis and public comment period would have prevented this travesty? Hardly. At the time, there were those who thought that simple detention was not enough. (It should not be forgotten that there were also camps set up for those unfortunate to be Italian or German on the east coast. These were far less "successful", for obvious reasons.)
EO11111: Signed by JFK. I might be wrong about this because I couldn't find the whole text, but I believe this ordered the state of Alabama to integrate its public facilities. Far from a popular opinion at the time. Considering that, in all such desegregation attempts, the very governors of the states involved were often actively opposed to such measures, I highly doubt a review would have led to justice being done.
More sillyness from the far right. It is marked as distinct from that of the far left by its paranoia. The far right has no real idea how government works and thus fears it. The far left has no real idea how government works but simply believes it will. Neither extreme is any way to run a country.
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"Twentieth century go and sleep.
Really deep. We won't blink
Your eyes are burning holes through me.
I'm not scared I'm outta here.
I'm not scared. I'm outta here.
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R.E.M.
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Read chapter one of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet"! Please?
[This message has been edited by Sol System (edited June 10, 2000).]