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Posted by Sunspot (Member # 77) on :

*SIGH*

My family is apparently plotting behind my back, arranging things so that they seem (to me) to work out "just right" so I can be moved to where 'they' feel I'll fit in better. (I am speaking of extended family)

My Aunt Dianne, Gramma, Grampa, and AUnt Kathleen arranged things secretly to get me 7 hours away from my family and friends, which they consider evil. Then, after I am settled in and happy here, My Aunt Kathleen starts on me about moving here permentantly. "I know that it's tough living at your house. Between your mom, Katie, and your father, I don't know how you make it." and "I'm suprised you know how to clean a house. YOu obviously didn't get that skill from your parents." are common things she says. Makes me angry... Then one day I'm on the computer realy quick before dinner and she comes up to me and asks me if I'm "Hanging out with the 'bad kids'". Then from there she accuses me of heavy drug and alcohol abuse, saying the whole family knows and is worried about me. All this based on something Dianne heard. I'd bet my left nut that it was Caryn Johnson, our church's gossiper person.

I mean, I have used weed and gotten drunk and smoked for a while now, but I've kept it low-key. It makes me so angry that she didn't have any real proof but accused me anyhow!

Then Kathleen goes to blame my so-called "Drug and Alcohol Problems" on my homelife. Okay, so my house isn't the most hospitible place to be, with the hyper kids, depressed/constantly sleeping/paranoid mother, verbally/emotionally/physically abusive father, mentally handicapped sister, and my own emotional problems, but where does she get off blaming them? She doesn't live there. I started using because I was bored, I wanted something to connect me to more people, to amke friends. (as lame as that sounds).

SO anyhow, I love Kathleen and the rest of my family, but it makes me angry how they all set me up for her to confront me. ANd the constant (for lack of a better word) dissing of my mom and constant requests for me to live down here... It's messing me up a little. In fact, after thinking about it al I called my mom and got really homesick. I cried for about 2 hours when I got in bed, and I almost never cry. They think they're protecting me? *LOL*

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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

I remember you posting about some of the things at home in the past. I don't know what to tell you. My mother is almost a saint, with not even the smallest of lies passing her lips since she joined church. No even to a loud and overbearing Dad. Dad changed as he got older, for the better, but that doesn't help you now. I can tell you this for sure. The friends you make through Booze or Pot are not real friends. I've been there and done that. They wont be there for you when you need them. They'll be high.

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Posted by BlueElectron (Member # 281) on :

Man, how can you have any complain about your family when you're the one on DOPE AND ALCOHOL!

I think it's prefectly normal for them to be worried.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Leave.

Shack up at a friend's.

Easier.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

NO! He's on ALCOHOL! He's obviously a complete addict who must be saved. Twat.

Saying that (as well as backpeddling and sounding like a hypocrite. Not bad eh?) how does the making friends thing work? I'm not against alcohol or pot. I've taken them both. I still take alcohol regularly (that sounds weird), but it's different over here. I know it sounds weird to say taht EVERYONE does it, but, well, we do. People go to the pub, and drink. Uni students stay up, take pot, make coffee, and chat. It's not a biggie. While a few parents would be worried at their kids taking pot, it's not immediete grounds for taking them to get help. And most parents don't give a fig about their kids drinking. Well, maybe Muslim parents...

But, as these people friends that you're just hanging with, who happen to smoke and drink to help the conversation, and to help relax? Or are these people who are sitting their saying "huh, huh, I smoke. Look at me, I'm dead hard. Let's go knock over some dustbins".

There's nothing wrong with getting drunk - or stoned, to a certain degree - by itself, but the reason why you're doing it can make it wrong. If one of my friends deceided to stop drinking, they'd still be my friend. I might think they were a little weird, but I wouldn't start ignoring them. But if these people are hanging with you just cause you know a cheap supplier, they're not worth it.

Oh, and for what its worth, your family sounds, well, bad. And you yourself have said so in the past. If these people are saying stuff about your mum that's lies, then it's bad. If however, it's harsh, it hurts, but it's true, then you'll have to face it.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

"But, as these people friends that you're just hanging with, who happen to smoke and drink to help the conversation, and to help relax?"

Those would be some pretty pathetic friends.

"There's nothing wrong with getting drunk"

Unless you get in a car.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Liam, you realise that because you and I drink they classify us as 'pathetic'? Grow up lads, the world has more vice than you can count on any given hand and your perceptions seem to be coloured by a total lack of knowledge on the subject.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

It's Liam's statement that it's okay to have friends that need drugs to have a conversation that the "pathetic" was in reference to.

Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

Liam said nothing of the sort. And his advice was very good.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

"But, as these people friends that you're just hanging with, who happen to smoke and drink to help the conversation, and to help relax? Or are these people who are sitting their saying 'huh, huh, I smoke. Look at me, I'm dead hard. Let's go knock over some dustbins'."

Liam's implication is that there's nothing wrong with first type.

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Yeah, I wa simplying that there's nothing wrong with smoking and drinking with friends. But I also never said that they need to do it in order to relax, or whatever. But it can make things a lot more fun.

I don't go out with my friends and get pissed all the time. Sometimes we go to classical music concerts. Sometimes we (attempt) to play golf. Sometimes we just go to the shops to buy the latest Buffy box-set. Sometimes we go to the pub, have a couple of drinks, and have a chat. And other times we go to the pub, get hammered, and then stagger into a club and dance until 2 in the morning, often singing "I will Survive" embarrasingly loud.

I sometimes come in from work, get a can of Fsters out, and watch TV. That doesn't make me an addict, anymore than coming home and making a cup of coffee makes me "addicted" to caffine.

I'll say again, it depends who you're doing it with, and why. If you're doing it with people who are your friends (and I mean friends as in, well, friends), to unwind, or have fun, then it's fine, it's good. If however, you're coming in from work every night and drinking a bottle of Vodka before falling asleep on the couch, then it's a problem. If you come in from a club with a bunch of mates, and deceide to sit up talking, and maybe smoke a little pot, then it's fine. If you go over peoples houses every night, and just sit their shooing up, never going out, and barely communicating, then it's a problem.

You seem to have a thing in the Us of not quite knowing how to moderate. So rather thanrisking it, you just label it bad, and refuse to touch it. The majority of children in this country will have had a drink by the time they are 16, and most will have had their first hangover by the time they are 17. And we spend a lot less money on psychiatrists too.

But I'm curious to hear from Sunspot. How are you drinking and smoking? Is it in a social capacity, or are you hanging out with people whose life begins and ends with drugs?

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

And mentioning drink-driving has nothing to do with the conversation anyway. Sunspot isn't drink driving, I'm not drink driving. You might as well have said "yeah, it's okay to drink, unless you're carrying a GUN".

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

"And other times we go to the pub, get hammered, and then stagger into a club and dance until 2 in the morning, often singing 'I will Survive' embarrasingly loud."

You don't need to be drunk to do that. One time some friends and I started banging on the table at lunch and singing "Mr. Tambourine Man," and there was no alcohol involved.

"I sometimes come in from work, get a can of Fsters out, and watch TV. That doesn't make me an addict, anymore than coming home and making a cup of coffee makes me 'addicted' to caffine."

Why are you drinking either, instead of, say, Dr Pepper and tea, or something? Incidentally, I've found both beer are coffee to be vile-tasting, and I eat Spam!

"So rather than risking it, you just label it bad, and refuse to touch it."

And what's wrong with that? Do drugs and alcohol have any positive aspects at all?

"And mentioning drink-driving has nothing to do with the conversation anyway. Sunspot isn't drink driving, I'm not drink driving. You might as well have said 'yeah, it's okay to drink, unless you're carrying a GUN'."

Do you carry a gun on a regular basis, though?

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

"Do you carry a gun on a regular basis, though?"

No. And I don't take my car with me when I go out drinking either.

""So rather than risking it, you just label it bad, and refuse to touch it."

'And what's wrong with that? Do drugs and alcohol have any positive aspects at all? '"

I's wrong because we don't actually live in a black and white world.
Personally, I'd say that their positive effects are they allow me (personally) to relax and have a good time. Sure, I don't need to drink when I go out. But it makes it a lot more fun.

"Why are you drinking either, instead of, say, Dr Pepper and tea, or something? "

I said "coffee" becasue a lot of Americans have trouble comprehending that people eat and drink differently in different countries.
Actually, I can't stand coffe. I do drink about 8 cups of tea a day. And I find it helps keep me awake far better than Coke or Dr Pepper.

"You don't need to be drunk to do that. One time some friends and I started banging on the table at lunch and singing "Mr. Tambourine Man," and there was no alcohol involved."

Wow. You craazy guy. You should come over here and really show London how to party.

It's interesting. You spend all day at work. Youy're stessed. You all finish and go to the pub after. Everyone waits for their pint. When it arrives, they allput it to their lips, take a sip, say "ahhh", and almost visibly relax.

Personally, I don't think it's any different than taking headache tablets. Ofc ourse, if you take a bottle full of headache tablets every day, then you've either got a problem, or one of the crappest addictions ever. (Anyone else thik that Matthew Perry was laughed at in the addiction centre. "Hey, what you got?" "I'm addicted to heroin." "I'm addicted to Coke". "Booze". "Er, I'm addicted to headache pills." Imagine the embarrasssing silence.)

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

BTW, I want �1.50 everytime I'm quoted. I paid to copyright anything I type, and I'm now charging.

Hey, I need the money for booze and Crack.

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"A fully functioning, cybernetic, technologically advanced team of superheroes... and NOBODY'S got a flashlight?"
- Polly Ester; Samurai Pizza Cats

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

"No. And I don't take my car with me when I go out drinking either."

Good. Unfortunately, this isn't always the case with many people.

"Wow. You craazy guy. You should come over here and really show London how to party."

I think I will! I'll bring my accordion.

"It's interesting. You spend all day at work. Youy're stessed. You all finish and go to the pub after. Everyone waits for their pint. When it arrives, they allput it to their lips, take a sip, say "ahhh", and almost visibly relax."

Like soma in Brave New World!

"Personally, I don't think it's any different than taking headache tablets."

Well, unless alcohol has suddenly become a (legitimate) medication...

"BTW, I want �1.50 everytime I'm quoted. I paid to copyright anything I type, and I'm now charging."

Send me a bill.

Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Sunspot, you mom sounds like my mom, except that my mom is a paranoid freak thanks to the fact that she's a lawyer.

My homelife isn't a Brady Bunch picknick either. Being the only son, my mom is more paranoid about me. She is always preaching about Catholic issues, and says that the Church we go to is being underminded by Satan. She also believes that there will be 3 days of darkness comming so she bought black draps to shield us from evil things. I have to constantly hear why Jews are greedy and damned, why Blacks are out to steel you money, why Mexicans are cheats, and why I should stay at home instead of doing community service since she never did any of these "crap" in the Philippines.
She never lets me talk to my real dad, because they divorced and he's gay. She wants me to go to a nearby college instead of an out of state one since she thinks it's for the best of the family. She also wants me to marry a White girl so that my children can have blond hair and blue eyes!

Well, enough of that for now...

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I'm afraid I don't have any deep insights to share here, but I find it rather interesting that "drunk driving" in the U.S. is "drink driving" in the U.K. And what we call a cookie, they call a biscuit! Crazy.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

"No. And I don't take my car with me when I go out drinking either."

'Good. Unfortunately, this isn't always the case with many people.'"

Ah. So because some people aren't responsible when they drink, drinking is bad? Isn't that like saying, oh, I don't know, that because some people aren't responsible with guns, then guns are bad?

We also pay for our petrol per litre. But our cars are sold with miles per galleon information. Crazy. That biscuit sounds good though.

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Posted by BlueElectron (Member # 281) on :

Here's a completely unrelated note:

You go out with friends to buy Buffy the box set? As in Buffy the vampire slayer? OH MY GOD!

Personally, I think "Buffy" is just a pathatic attempt to illustrate that women can physically fight as well as "Ramble" (which we all know is not true, maybe with the exception of China). But instead of fighting the commies, she fights the so called "devils", and instead of using a M-60 machine gun, she prefers to kick ass with her "high heels" and stab things with her trusted "wooden spikes"!

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

"Ah. So because some people aren't responsible when they drink, drinking is bad? Isn't that like saying, oh, I don't know, that because some people aren't responsible with guns, then guns are bad?"

Well, I can give you some positive aspects to guns, but I have yet to hear a positive aspect to drinking besides, "it lets people drug their problems away!"

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

I'd like to know where you got "drug your problems away". I said drinking helps you relax. It also helps you talk about those problems more easily.

The good points? It's relaxing, fun, enjoyable, helps you socialise, and makes you impervious to criticism. What more do you want?

Oh, and Buffy (and Angel) is currently one of the top 5 programs on TV today. Sorry, but it's true.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

"'I'd like to know where you got "drug your problems away'."

See below.

"The good points? It's relaxing, fun, enjoyable, helps you socialise, and makes you impervious to criticism. What more do you want?"

Paraphrase: "It distorts your brain. What more do you want?"

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Exactly. And what's wrong with that?

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Posted by BlueElectron (Member # 281) on :

If a person need alcohol or drugs to make friends, relax, or jump-start an conversation, then that person is just sad.

And NO, people who are on drugs, people who drink frequently or heavily are the ABSOLUTE MINORITY, and the rest of us do not agree with your concepts!

But hey, they can nock themself out, and maybe they'll die faster , so the rest of us don't have to take care of their problems. Yup, it's gonna be a better society for us, less crackheads or drunks sucking on wellfare and taking up hospital beds; I bet we'll even get a tax deduction once all the drunks and crackheads are out of the picture, we can greatly reduce our healthcare budget!

What can I say, it's just mother nature's way of weeding out the weak that's unfit for the society.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

It must be great to be so right about everything.

"And NO, people who are on drugs, people who drink frequently or heavily are the ABSOLUTE MINORITY, and the rest of us do not agree with your concepts!"

What you don't seem to realise is that that that only applies to America. Different countries do things differently. I know, it's shocking, but people over here DO drink frequently, and the young ones often DO drink heavily. Just not in the self-destructive way you seem to think.

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