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Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010504/ts/un_usa_rights_dc.html

A bit of a comeupance for our transatlantic overseers, n'est pas?

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Pettiness, pure and simple.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Is a Petty Officer supposed to be petty? 'Cuz Miles O'Brien was a Chief Petty Officer, but he didn't seem to be as petty as you might think being a Chief Petty Officer required.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Actually, the prevalent theory is that he was actually a senior chief petty officer. Even worse. :-)

So, the Soviets were on the human rights commission while Stalin was in charge? There's irony for you...

"...which assigns investigators to probe abuses around the world."

You don't even want to know how I misread that. Actually, come to think of it, it would have been an easy typo to make. The 'n' is right next to the 'b'...

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

France, Austria, Sweden, Sudan, Bahrain, South Korea, Pakistan, Croatia, Armenia, Chile, Mexico, Sierra Leone, Togo and Uganda.
France --- ok, I see how that works
Austria ----- same thing, logical choice
Sweden ------ same
Sudan ----- ??? Not even gonna ask how this happened
Bahrain ------ Never heard of this country in my life
South Korea ----- Okay, this makes sense too
Pakistan ------- ???? aren't these the nuke problem people?
Croatia -------- Makes sense
Armenia ------ Heard of it, but only once or twice
Chile -------- not as bad a choice as some others
Mexico -------- I think a lot of world leaders got a brand new Passat
Sierra Leone ------- That's a country?
Togo ------ Never, ever, ever heard of it, thought it was food
Uganda ------- Wasn't this another one of those countries that can't fend for their own people much less butt into other's business?

I really dislike the US, but even I think that they should have been in here ahead of many, many others, this is just shamefull.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

There's a regional quota on the committees, IIRC. If it was just the 20 most highly-regarded members when it came human rights, the committee would have nothing but Western states on it, which would then give it basically no credibility when it comes to dealing with abuses of human rights in non-western nations.

But I can't see why the Americans are up in arms about it. You miss out on a couple of years after having it for 53. Big deal. The Americans love sitting on committees, but when it comes to the actual nuts and bolts of the UN they stick their thumbs up their asses and complain. Need I bring up the fact that the US refused to pay its UN dues for how many years and waited till the organization went almost broke before strongarming the UN into accepting new conditions where it paid substantially less into the budget than it had been meant to? Or the fact that despite having the most powerful military on Earth, the US contributes fewer peacekeepers than wimpy little Canada and a half-dozen other members?

Fair is fair. If you don't put your fair share into the UN, don't expect involvement on every committee.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

"Burkina Faso? Disputed Zone? Who called all these weird places?"

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Bahrain ------ Never heard of this country in my life

Just because you've never heard of it, that doesn't make it invalid. It's an island in the Persian Gulf, near Qatar. That's near the United Arab Emirates. Which is next to Oman.

You've probably never heard of any of those, have you?

Armenia ------ Heard of it, but only once or twice

Remember that whole Kosovo problem? There was a lot of talk about Armenia then.

And Mother Teresa was from Armenia.

Togo ------ Never, ever, ever heard of it, thought it was food

It's a long, skinny country on the west coast of Africa. It's bordered by Ghana, Benin, and Burkina Faso.

Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

Wimpy? Little? Canada?
I am gonna ram THE biggest hockey stick up your american ass!
The Arrow was the best fighter ever, but instead we f*d up and got your stupid missiles.
We are the SECOND largest landmass, you are the FOURTH!
And we KICK YOUR ASS at hockey!!

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Hockey = sucks

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Oh, my, Canada has more ice than we do. I bow before their emminent superiority.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Yes, they're a tad more civilised too. But don't strain yourself

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

um, infinity

*looks at the ground below him*

Looks pretty Canadian to me.

Je suis ici.

And I've seen the world's largest hockey stick, FWIW. Duncan, BC. Not the sort of thing one would want up one's ass.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

KLINGONS RULE!!! DIE FEDERATION BASTARDS!!!!

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

"The Arrow was the best fighter ever, but instead we f*d up and got your stupid missiles."

Now I must object here. Have we gotten so PC that we now have to censor harmless words like "fed" incase they offend fat people? This is an outrage. Mud the far cus.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

Or we didn't feel like puttin all of the stars in to cover fucked?

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

"We are the SECOND largest landmass, you are the FOURTH!"

Perhaps I misread you, but you're talking about Canada and the US? I hate to tell you this, but we're both on the same landmass. And it's the third largest.

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Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

the_Tom: I can just imagine how people(forum included) would bitch if the U.S. did contribute the largest number peacekeepers to the U.N.

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

bear, I do believe your right.... How would some countries fell if the US didn't do what it did???

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

If the US didn't do what it did, they'd be extatic! But as minor powers they don't have that option.
Russia is the first, Canada second, China third and USA is the fourth in order of landmass, so yeah, we are bigger *G*

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Those are countries, not landmasses.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

He's using Molsonian geographic terms, I think.

If the US contributed its overseas forces into UN-sanctioned operations under the UN flag rather than acting unilaterally and intervening in foreign conflicts as an independent superpower, methinks people would hate the US less, and the US'd be less likely to do selfish badass things.

Unfortunately, whackos in bunkers in Montana and whackos in mental bunkers in Washington seem to think closer involvement with the UN will lead to the insidious influx of international socialism...

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

Or people would start bitching the U.S. was getting into everyone else's business... Do this, don't do that, nothing changes the fact people will bitch anyways.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

If the US became as active in the UN as it could be?

Then these same people would whine that the US was using the UN as its 'bitch' and getting it to serve only US interests.

It's an unwinnable argument, because the other side's concepts are inherently irrational.

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

Why doesn't Luxembourg do more for NATO and the UN, they have a higher GNP per capita than the US... It just isn't right......

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Y'know who I blame? Those miserable fat Belgian bastards. Fuckers can't even choose a language.

Damn them to infinite eternal hells for Jean-Claude Van Damme, I say.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Well that was rational...

The benelux countries have a problem with bureaucracy in the EU, it's kind of the same with the UN.
But to even have these kinds of unions between so radically different countries is a pretty good achievement, it's the first time in history.

So to quote Harry Callahan, the system stinks, but until something better comes along I stick with it!

Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

Methinks that the United States is on too much of a power trip, if they lost theur status as a world power they'd learn a valuable lesson in humility and not be such bitches most of the time.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Yeah.. then you could whine about the Chinese instead.

Can you make that same whistling sound outta your nose that my dog makes when SHE whines?

Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

Better yet, we can all enjoy a nice depression that may produce a war even better than the last.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Whoah there, bear... are you saying that the US' status as the world's sole superpower is the one thing that's preventing the world from descending into war?

Jesus. Now that's arrogance.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Well, our status as preeminent superpower is closely related to our unsurpassed economic capacity.

Thus, losing one would likely mean losing the other, which would cause an upheaval in the global economy worse than the Asian crashes a while back, since we have our widdle hands in everything everywhere...

And since most wars are fought for economic reasons...

Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

I am saying that the vacuum that would be created would probably not be a good thing for anyone.

The Tom: I don�t like the way you use �Super Power�, you act like we have nuclear weapons aimed at everybodies throat. This term seems to be use whenever a source wants to demonize my country as a big bully.

American foreign policy is a direct results of our desire to maintain a prosperous economy, so the fact that we medal in others affairs is less about being ARROGANT and more about continuing of our prosperity. In my understanding of the world, the prosperity of the U.S. means the prosperity of everyone. National lines are being blurred by industry everyday, once economically superior countries are finding themselves to be a kin to paper tigers, diminished to compete in the world markets where doing business is a hundred times more cut throat. The sad thing is that the idea of industry serving a country is less true today than the idea of a country serving industry. I would hope that those here would understand the colossal dynamics of being one of largest contributors to the world economy, and not make a hasty opinion or quick judgment that is based a simplistic view of subject that is anything but simple.

Please accept my most sincere apology if I offended anyone, I was simply trying to defend what�s left of the idea of my countries honor. I can�t say how we got here, but never the less we are here.

Note: I have not said anything bad about Canada, and I haven't subscribed to the belief that all Canadians dislike all United Statians because of our brashness. By subscribing to that I would enforce a stereotype that would imply that Canadians can�t form their own opinion based on person to person basis. In general the U.S. would have absolutely no sense of humor, no hockey (the best sport every played), and god knows no Star Trek, so in light of these I could personally never say anything bad about Canada no matter what she says about me and my country.

This has been my attempt to sooth some nerves, ease some tension, and to show that our fates are more intertwined than most are realizing.
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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

This isn't "Canada is better than the US." This is "US foreign policy is, by your own admission, completely based on the principle of following the course of action that leads to increased benefits to the US." And while it'd be a flat-out lie to say any nation doesn't do the same thing, other Western nations like Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the members of the European Union have shown a far greater commitment to look beyond their own needs and towards the fundamentals that lead to a prosperous humanity on the whole.

It benefitted the US to help Pinochet rise to power. It benefitted the US to fund Israel to push the Arabs out of Palestine. It benefitted the US to arm the Iraqis and Mujahidin.

Did these things benefit humanity on the whole? No. Do Americans care? No.

US is not one of three Western nations legally elected to a position. So your government votes to freeze paying UN dues. Why? Because the needs of the US apparently aren't met when it doesn't hold a position of power on a committee. Fuck that. You are founding members of the UN, and one little setback like this isn't worth denying a worthy organization the money it needs to feed starving children and pay peacekeepers to stop people from slaughtering one another.

It's the same story with the International Criminal Court or the Ottawa Treaty on Landmines or the Kyoto Protocol.

Why can't the US gov't be the bigger people, accept that life as we know it won't fall to pieces if three European countries are on a committee rather than the US and two others, and for once accept that the US has to "take one for the team."

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Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

right...

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

mmm, I could care less if it was filled with communists..... as long as the work got done right for all....

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

The U.S. is a fiercely independent country which probably can be attributed to going at things alone or not taking much of anything "for the team" of course that probably won't help...

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

>"the US has to "take one for the team.""

WHAT 'team?'

Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

The team of world countries???
The Allies was a team... as was the Cush Coalition....
The UN is a team...

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

"The team of world countries???"

Clearly, a basic understanding of world events shows that there is no such animal... or at least, it's rarer than the pushmi-pullyu.

"The Allies was a team... as was the Cush Coalition...."

The Allies was a group banded together for mutual defense and benefit, who were actually largely in conflict with each other (ask the US and Soviets of the time) about even the most basic of goals. Not a team.

I admit ignorance as to the "Cush Coalition."

"The UN is a team..."

Must... control... hysterical... laughter...

Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

The EU is the only attempt I've seen at uniting people and surpassing the problems we have today. If only it were to change to a global union, instead of only a European one, then we could perhaps reach what we've been striving for so long

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

No, the UN is not a team, if by team you demand unity or uniformity be present. But, sometimes, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one, and nations must consider the impact their selfishness has on others.

For example, do you think European businesses really want to adhere to the Kyoto protocol any more than American ones do? When we compare the EU and US, we see similar-sized populations and economic output, and yet one is willing to grit its teeth and cut greenhouse gas emissions for the good of every single person on the planet today and tomorrow, while the other sulks and says they'll do things how they like it.

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

AAAARRRRRGGGHH!!!

Arrogant America!! AAARRGGHH!

Because they have been VOTED out of a UN Committee, they refuse to pay their debts!
This is the most blatant example of American arrogancy this eehh, ... this WEEK!

I've completely had it with this George "Daddy said I could play president!" Bush as President. He's a complete ass-hole. Stupid redneck! Ignorant fool!

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

George W. Bush is not a redneck.

He uses suntan lotion.

And the US refused to pay its debt waaaaay before it got kicked off any committee ...

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Well, after rain comes sun. Maybe the next president will be something else. If the term still exists then.
I hope Bush isn't planning to absolve the senate, nudge-nudge.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Nimrod, the word you're looking for is dissolve. The Senate needs absolution all right, but not as much as the Supreme Court for the sin they committed in November and December.

Clarification: The US stopped paying its dues years ago, demanding that the US's share of the UN budget (roughly corresponding to the size of the nation's GDP) be cut down. The UN conceded a year or two ago, the US started paying back all its accumulated debts again at the reduced rate. The House voted to freeze paybacks the other week in retaliation for not being elected to the committee.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Well, time to put on the rubber band on my wrist again. *snap* AARGH!

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

well, this is a fine....

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

...cup of tea. Yep.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

Well I say kick them out of the UN altogether and get the whole world to shun them forever....

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Sarcasm?

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

No, a good lesson.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

In sarcasm?

Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Forever being kind of a, um, big word...

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Great idea.

By the way, we'd like all the capital for the Marshall Plan back now.

And that money we spent keeping up your side of the Iron Curtain.

And the 12 billion per year we hand out to various nations in aid, retroactive, of course, to the time we started paying it out.

And the (invested per year) 195 million in the Asian Development bank, the 83 million in the Inter-American development bank, the 1 billion in the International development Association, the 49 million in the bank for Reconstruction and Development, the 94 million for the African Development Fund, the 23 million in the Enterprise for the Americas Investment fund...etc, etc...

And we'll be keeping our wheat and medical research for ourselves, thanks. When the Bear comes calling, you can give him YOUR bread.

Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

The Marshall Plan may have benefited other nations but it was created for completely self-serving purposes. You wanted to help countries so they wouldn't turn commie, not because you actually cared.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Not to mention to avoid creating post WWI conditions all over again.

But so what?

Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

It's so wonderful to be insulted....

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Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

How does everybody like my new status line?

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

I love it! Now I know who to pick on whenever I'm having a bad day.

Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

Now I know I am among children.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

>"You wanted to help countries so they wouldn't turn commie, not because you actually cared. "

Yeah, so? I didn't see any of those countries being too proud to take our money, did you? Motivation's largely irrelevant when you're living in a bombed-out shell.

And incidentally, WHOSE fault do you think it was for those post-WWI conditions, anyway? Not OURS. WE wanted to go easier on the Germans, but NOOOOOOO, they had to go and create humiliating conditions that were practically GUARANTEED to lead to a new war.

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

I'll be the first to say that Wilson was full of great ideas, and, IMHO, FDR was a pretty smart guy too.

Of course, it's a fairly well-accepted historical theory that the Marshall plan combined with the American's development of the Atomic Bomb without notifying the Soviets drove Stalin into a nearly-paranoid defensive mentality that a rebuilt Germany backed by the US would invade the Soviet Union for the third time in a half-century. And hence the drive to annex "buffer" states in Eastern Europe and erect the Iron Curtain.

I'm not saying that the Marshall Plan was a bad idea or that Stalin was justified in doing what he did. I'm just saying that the Marshall Plan mightn't have been all rainbows and Christmas Trees.

It was American aid money during the Cold War that caused most the problems, however... Africa, the Middle East, Southeast Asia. Just because corrupt dictator "A" is willing to take American money to fight evil populist rebel leader "B" and the Americans are willing to give it to them doesn't mean that it's the right thing to do...

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Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

Yeah well... being at the top of somebody�s hit list isn't an easy thing to tolerate.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

I'm gonna use a jungle metaphor here. Whenever the elephants moves, he's bound to knock over a few monkeys, but if the elephant kept his ass in one place more often instead of knocking over everyone, the animals wouldn't be as mad at him. And although none of the other animals can take him one on one, if he enrages them enough they won't hesitate to gang up on him.

I think I've made my oppinion clear here, thank you. Next!

Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :

I was always kind of fond of the one that says those who live in glass a house shouldn't throw stones.

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

Well said, Bear & First of 2

- a Canadian

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

I just came up with a stroke of marketing genius. I will make a energy drink and call it "Whoopass"
You know what's the best part though?
>>>>>>>> It will come in CANS!!!!

now you can really "open up a can of whoopass!!!"

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

I believe that's already been made.

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-DT on arguing with Omega, April 30

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Yes, it has.

BTW, that jungle thing is a bit interesting... In those conditions, it wouldn't be long before the elephant was sitting in a huge pile of his own shit. What does that do to your analogy? *L*

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[This message has been edited by TSN (edited May 18, 2001).]

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

In fact, the can of whoopass was one of the basis for the Powerpuff Girls, who, originally, were called the "Whoopass Girls". but, for some crazy gay and communist reason, their origin was tweaked, and their name was changed. Tsk.

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Ah, a Jones product. That's where I came across it before. But $40 frigging bucks for 24 tiny cans? WTF?

(for the record, Fufuberry Soda, despite the Barbie 'n Skipper name, is quite the shit. Yay Urban Juice and Soda Co.!)

But I digress back to the original-original topic at hand. It would appear that at least one well-respected NGO seems to think that US's being passed over for other Western nations was on the HRC was no fluke. (Story).