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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Should the rest of the world recognize Somaliland as an independent country from Somalia?
http://www.msnbc.com/msn/566996.asp

I think so.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

I don't get the bit about Djibouti. Do they seriously think that the other countries of the world will say "Well, now that Somaliland exists, we like them better than you, Djibouti, so we're just going to get rid of you..."?

I don't see any reason for the rest of the world not to recognize Somaliland. Or Sealand, either.

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Posted by MIB on :

hehe. I wish those people would spruce up Sealand. A paint job would do it. LOL. I say good for them! They have the same balls as those who founded this nation. They had the balls to say 'We don't like your nation so screw you, we'll make our own!' I fantasized about founding my own nation. The Antartic Union. lol. We managed to build eviromental domes and a defence force within 50 years thanks to the help of an alien intellegence.

I wonder. Where can I get a Sealand dollar??

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Yes, I would like to see Somaliland recognized. Africa needs all the stability it can get, or rather, chances to create stability for themselves.

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Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :

Ah yes, and what better way then to add yet another (most likely) unstable government to the fray.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Be nice if every country could be recongized.

Of course, last I checked, Taiwan still wasn't being recognized.

And this is why international politics sucks my left testicle.

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

And my right one.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

I'd contribute a third testicle, but, um, that wouldn't be right now, would it?

The UN has recognised Tibet as independent ever since the Chinese invaded, but, um, that hasn't done much, now, has it?

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Really? I didn't know Tibet was recognized as independent...

And I think Taiwan is recognized by everyone but China, right?

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

AFAIK, most nations don't formally recognise Taiwan as independent. Taiwan itself doesn't... it claims of being the legitimate government for all of China, and not one of two nations. The UN has accepted Communist China since the Seventies as the legitimate government of the mainland, IIRC.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Actually, US domestic politics sucks my right testicle.

Posted by Eclipse (Member # 472) on :

Yes, both Taiwan and mainland China claim to be the China:
Mainland China = 'The People's Republic of China'
Taiwan = 'The Republic of China'

Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :

Behold the majesety and grandeur that is the Principality of Sealand, the jewel of the North Sea!!

http://www.sealandgov.com/images/sealand_sm.jpg

Are they having us on? Seriously?

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

If it is that damned easy, I'm gonna start my own country too...

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

"They had the balls to say 'We don't like your nation so screw you, we'll make our own!'"

Actually, it was more along the lines of a few blokes sitting in a pub, and someone mentioning:

"Hey, there's an abondoned military platform just outside British waters. Who's round is it?"

"Not mine. So?"

"I'll get the next round, but only if we go and take it over and claim to be a new country."

"Brilliant. Get me a Calsbreg Export."

Which may be superficially similar to a bunch of religious wierdo's running off, but only superficially.

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Posted by MIB on :

Lmao!! Ahh Sealand. Population: 4. Wait. Is Sealand recognized as an independant nation?

I'm gonna start my own nation too! I offically claim the Survivor 1 island for the...uhhhhhh...Republic of Survivor! The population will be free to be fat, naked, gay guys! Only they won't have to be shown on T.V. and they don't get a million bucks for being fat, naked, gay guys! Woo hoo! Richard from Survivor will be appointed as President! YAY.....

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

I started my own nation when I was in HS. I called it the Terran Federated Imperium. I took a page from Frank Zappa & included the "Involuntary Induction Clause," which stated that I could "lay hands" on a map & instantly proclaim that all persons, lands, & resources in the represented affected areas were now belong to the Imperium. I took it once step further as well: any place that any Imperial citizen had ever been or currently was belong to the Imperium. Furthermore, anywhere they MIGHT go in their travels would ALSO belong to the Imperium.

Annexation transitus. Gotta love it.

Heh...maybe I'll revive it. Some of you lot would make marvelous regional sub-emperors.

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Posted by MIB on :

OH OH!!! I wanna be a sub-emperor. I am willing to be feared and dispised!!!!

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Probably the best Breg in the world.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

So if we pool our money and build our own landmass, can we call it New Sealand?

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

About that, I know where York is, and I know where Brunswick is, but where exactly is the original Zealand?

Posted by MIB on :

If we pool all our money to buil an artificial island, where would we put it? I say we call our nation New Terra. Or Sci-fi-ville.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

We have to put it in the Pacific, MIB, & call it Gravette Island

And Zealand is the largest island in Denmark, the one Copenhagen is one. It, too, is sometimes referred to as "Sealand;" the Danes call it "Sj�lland."

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

In this case I do beleive that it should be recognized, but in no way does that apply to any land. Each case must be examined carefully, because some are in no way deserving of recognition, an example that comes to mind would be Kosovo, in the Balkans, which only seeks independence in order to join Albania. But if a land has it's own unique people that do not have a land of their own, then they do deserve a country.

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Until the end of time
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Unique people, like DeLorean owners?

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

I meant peoples

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Until the end of time
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Posted by MIB on :

Peoples? Like Augusta National Golf Club members?

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

I would just give it up.

They (Somaliland) should be recognized and become an country.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Does any country officially recognize Sealand, in any case?

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Probably not. But I don't think any country officially denies it recognition, either. I don't know that any country has any official stance on the matter at all. Other than Sealand itself, of course. :-)

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