I like it...it's really nice. And pretty realistic in some cases. Soldier of Fortune 2 has some nice dismemberment animations and body parts, squirting blood, etc. Kind of weird when someone screams after I blow their head off though. So yeah, violence in video games keeps me occupied during times I'd usually be off stealing things from stores. Hooray for virtual sniper rifles and 20x scopes!
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
Children are being having a bad influence of such games. Columbine and other accident tragedy are result only of these violent games when you speak of now.
Posted by The Missing Mario Brother (Member # 821) on :
I concur. Nothing beats shooting Nazi's in the crotch then seeing them clutch at it screaming, "Acthung! Ich bein ein ouchen!" or some shit.
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
Oh please, that's bullshit. If you want to blame entertainment for real world violence, there are plenty of war movies showing the same exact thing every game does nowadays.
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
Ah? Certainly, not I? Never am I.
[ May 27, 2002, 21:16: Message edited by: The Ulcer Mongoose ]
Posted by The Missing Mario Brother (Member # 821) on :
To be honest, I think it's the *lack* of violence that promotes violent behaviour. Crap like Seventh Heaven and Beverly Hills 90210 promote rage that ends with a highschool shooting.
I suggest contacting Fox and asking them to stop cancelling good stuff like Futurama, and start cancelling the real crap.
[ May 27, 2002, 21:15: Message edited by: The Missing Mario Brother ]
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
I can just as easily blame 7th Heaven for teenage violence due to the episode they had of a soldier dying. But that's just stupid.
Posted by The Missing Mario Brother (Member # 821) on :
Don't forget that whole monkey episode, where the little girl that looks like a little boy kept seeing a monkey. It's obviously promoting AIDS.
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
No I'm serious about my point. Pregnant people in games or tv shows don't make me want to go out and have a baby. Nor do guns in games and movies make me want to shoot anyone. It sounds like nothing more than a scape goat.
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
But is when the Children of one American go to school and they are wanting shoot, but they else can not see this but in Matrix movies or on the Internet Gaming sites. On boxes, warning labels must are to be pain attention to by many parents of these such children of hate.
Posted by The Missing Mario Brother (Member # 821) on :
So why do we blame what everyone's watching and playing, and not blaming the fuckhead parents who are raising these murderous idiots. Hell. I don't even know what your point is, that's the worst attempt at English I've had to read since reading subtitles from some Jet Li movie.
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
Well, in attempt to seduce my defenceman, I am always known for mistaken english. I am from France, and english has not always has been first language of many time. I attempt to effort make, but seemingly I cannot take under such a task without flagrant fuckwads making me of fun. (Is that right?)
Gotta love newbie assholes.
Posted by The Missing Mario Brother (Member # 821) on :
Love me guys French morons who conversate English threads speak know do not English.
[ May 27, 2002, 21:30: Message edited by: The Missing Mario Brother ]
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
Um, I didn't plan for this to be a grammar war. Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
Yeah, you gotta love those guys too.
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Well let's bust out the phaser rifles and lightsabers then cuz I wanna see blood... lots of it!!!!!
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
If only Elite Force was more realistic, I'd probably enjoy it. Elite Force 2 doesn't look any better. :\
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
This place makes less and less sense every day...
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
Raise shields!
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Ban words, not guns....
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
I violence like. Want America go I. Shoot range every corner on. Everyone Glock own. Country great! Viva la France!
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
May days are when the place in which we is are making less of sense!
Posted by Tora Ziyal (Member # 53) on :
True, sometimes parents blame games for violence because they obviously can't blame themselves for not noticing their children's violent tendencies. My mom was asking me about EverQuest the other day because some kid's mom blamed it for inducing him to suicide since he played it all the time. Not only does that baffle anyone who's ever seen EverQuest played, but simple psychology would suggest the kid was spending so much time in a fantasy world BECAUSE he had problems.
But, on the other hand, it is also stupid to assume violent video games do NOT affect people's tendencies to violence. If the media doesn't affect people, why do companies bother putting out ads?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
"The gun is good....The penis is evil. The penis shoots seeds, and makes new life, and poisons the earth with a plague of men, as once it was. But the gun shoots death, and purifies the earth of the filth of brutals. Go forth and kill!"
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
wow.. that's intense
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
I hold myself up in my bedroom and play violent video games quite often. And I have no anger towards real life as a result of it. I love sniping enemy soldiers in the leg, seeing the exposed bone and watching them fall to the ground in pain. It's great. And it's just a simulation. One which doesn't fuel me to go harm myself or others. Nor does seeing airplanes fly into things. I don't want to go hurt those that hurt others. I've no hostilities from the things I expose myself to. I happen to enjoy blowing limbs off people in video games, but I have a very weak stomach for anything of that matter that's real. I'm a wussy of sorts. I'm a virtual badass who wouldn't hurt a fly.
[ May 29, 2002, 01:41: Message edited by: DeadCujo ]
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
It's the morals, not the video games that cause children to shoot people. It is the parents who do not enforce any type of behavior restrictions on their kids, so they grow up thinking they can get away with anything. Think about it, for example, parents who bring children to love God, is not going to go shoot people because hey are jocks or whatever.
I think all of us were brought up to believe (and personally believe) that killing life is a wrong way to go. That and along the line that you will pay for such actions.
It's al about their personality, it has nothing to do with TV, Movie or Game violence. Al it is a scapegoat so that it wouldn't be like saying "They were brought up that way."
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
quote:parents who bring children to love God, is not going to go shoot people because hey are jocks or whatever.
Quit while you're ahead. You had a good argument up to that point.
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
True that certain aspects of worshipping God is bad, but can you reall see someone who goes to church every Sunday, who loves God, and would later in that week go in school and kill people because of TV or games?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
This should be interesting. But not here.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote: True that certain aspects of worshipping God is bad, but can you reall see someone who goes to church every Sunday, who loves God, and would later in that week go in school and kill people because of TV or games?
I AM POSSESSED OF FIRST OF TWO!
"There have been many examples of massacres occuring throughout history in the name of religion. I know this because I work in a library, and have read books. The crusades was bad. People died. I read this in a book. Because I'm better than all of you. Fuckwits. The KKK, there's another one. They are sometimes religious, and they sometimes kill, thereby my argument is right. I want my financial aid!"
I AM NO LONGER POSSESSED!
Tora is pretty much right. It's daft to think that violent computer games don't have any effect. We are shaped by what we see every day. However, the logic leap from "Huh huh, I made him bleed in Soldier of Fortune" to "DIE everyone who has ever looked at me funny" is bigger than Jeff's deer killing record.
It is also a scapegoat though. Witness the Columbine (I think) parents blaming Doom, saying that one of the killers named his gun after a character in Doom, which he didn't, mainly as the characters in Doom don't actually have names.
Banning stuff like this is wrong though, as is banning anything. If you want to stop people from being racist, you don't remove racist publications. You create a society where people would not see the need. Tackle to problem, not one of the causes.
And I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with playing violent games, providing you are old enough. Although reading " I love sniping enemy soldiers in the leg, seeing the exposed bone and watching them fall to the ground in pain. It's great." does make me wonder...
Posted by The Ulcer Mongoose (Member # 239) on :
I would kill John Carmack to have Doom III right now. So I can kill in Doom III. It's a circle of sorts.
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
As would I. Posted by BlueElectron (Member # 281) on :
On the other hand...
Someone tell me how to cheat on SoF2 PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did the "command line" changes, but every time I try the cheat on console, damn thing told me "cheats are not allowed on this server"
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
Run it with +set sv_cheats on the comnand line Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Then you still have to manually load a map (i.e. via the console) for the cheats to work.
Finished SOF2 yesterday. Going back for another round of politically correct dismemberfests Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
Of course we're assuming you are running your own map/single player game, otherwise if you're playing online...the cheat code is alt-ctrl-del, twice in quick succession.
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
Oops, I meant +set sv_cheats 1
I do not have to load the maps in order to cheat, they work straight out if you set that command while starting the program.
Posted by BlueElectron (Member # 281) on :
See, my problem here is that I've set the command line already, and the cheat still doesn't work.
So, the only alternative for me is to load the map manually each time?
Posted by DeadCujo (Member # 13) on :
I think I loaded the map via map mapname the first time, and then the savegames I would then load when I played kept the cheat mode on.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Or you could just learn to stop looking for the easy fix and learn how to play the bloody thing properly.
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
What are you talking about, Liam? The Doom-characters had names; Imp, Lost Soul, Cacodemon, Arch-Vile, etc. Or did you mean individual names, like the pink monster "Biph", that comes in level four, or the resurrected marine "Guy Gadbois" of level 8? Those don't exist.
After finishing the last level of Doom II you get a full lineup of all monsters.
Posted by thoughtychops (Member # 480) on :
Doom was a cultural watershed. IBM claimed to have lost over forty million dollars (in some kind of bizarre Lost Productivity calculation) because of employees holding Doomfests over the network.
I had to drop my first Journalism class because I was too busy playing Doom in the dorms.
Thankfully something like Unreal Tournament wasn't around back then. Hearing neo-geeks scream "DIE BITCH" while furiously clicking a mouse is infinitely more satisfying than writing a dull piece on the bowling teams latest loss to the aggies.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
You're right Nimmy. What I meant to say was that the name allegedly given to the boys gun from Doom II was a name that wasn't IN Doom II. If you get what I mean.
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