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PsyLiam
Member # 73
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As with Tom, I know how well these normally turn out. SO! I will put in the most flammable quotes and THEN link to the full article. Genius, no?
This is by his former speechwriter, David Frum. A "Canadian right-winger, who cointed infamous phrase 'axis of evil'".
quote: "The White House is run on strict, almost military lines, a so-called "culture of evangelism".
"this was a White House where attendance at Bible study was, if not compulsory, not quite uncompulsory". "Frum, 42, repeatedly mentions how Bush and various aides are constantly thanking God, beseeching God's help and urging others to pray on their behalf."
"It mirrors Saddam's habit of regularly referencing Allah in his every action and speech."
"Bush describes al-Qaeda as "a bunch of nuts" and environmentalists are "green-green- lima-beans." Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat is "thuggish". And he would often say sarcastically of Europeans: "They just lurve Arafat.""
From, strangely enough, the Mirror. Lee's favouritest newspaper ever.
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Vogon Poet
Member # 393
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Um, what? When have I ever mentioned the Mirror in conversation? I prefer The Sun. Mainly for Page 3. Don't you realise that getting even that minor fact wrong totally invalidates your entire argument in Omeychops' eyes?!
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Daryus Aden
Member # 12
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None of this left-wing hate mongering will ever change the fact that Bush is on an intellectual par with Eienstien, Mandela and Ghandi. His place in history as a parody of virtue is assured.
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Wraith
Member # 779
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VP: I think you had a go at the Mirror once (I may be wrong)
This was in the Telegraph as well.
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The_Tom
Member # 38
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Most likely because Frum = Conrad Black's bitch
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Tahna Los
Member # 33
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It's hard to prove that considering that Conrad Black no longer owns the National Post.
Liberal Quackers now own the Post. And no change in ideals. I'm quite disappointed with the Aspers y'know.
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The_Tom
Member # 38
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Black did all the hiring, though, and there continues to be large crossover between the Post and Black's rightasallhell Hollinger assets in London, Jerusalem and Chicago. The Aspers are too stingy to bring in new people, and aside from their support of Chretien, are hardly centrist or liberal in the slightest.
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Vogon Poet
Member # 393
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http://flare.solareclipse.net/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=001040#000008
That's it?!
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First of Two
Member # 16
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And yet, the article concludes (should I say I'm surprised that this was left out of the OP?)
quote: But it's Bush, the man, who surprises - and Frum's final verdict after all the barbs.
He says: "George W Bush is a very unusual person: a good man who is not a weak man. He has many faults. He is impatient and quick to anger; sometimes glib, even dogmatic, more conventional in his thinking than a leader probably should be. But outweighing the faults are his virtues: decency, honesty, rectitude, courage and tenacity."
He adds: "He was a rather unfamiliar type of heavyweight. Words often failed him, his memory sometimes betrayed him but his vision was large and clear.
"And when he perceived new possibilities, he had the courage to act on them - a much less common virtue in politics than one might suppose. Bush's vision is not occluded by guilt or self-doubt." Frum quit his �60,000-a-year job soon after last January's axis of evil speech. Insiders say the president was upset that he had taken credit for the address.
But Frum concludes that the president has performed well. "He was hardly the obvious man for the job. But by a very strange fate, he turned out to be, of all unlikely things, the right man."
And yesterday he claimed: "The more I got to know Bush the more I got to like him."
Sounds to me like the guy is mostly trying to sell his book.
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Daryus Aden
Member # 12
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To quote Richard Curtis: "He looks like what he is. A dungball in a dress".
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E. Cartman
Member # 256
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Religious fanatics waging war against religious fanatics. Jolly good show.
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PsyLiam
Member # 73
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quote: Originally posted by First of Two: And yet, the article concludes (should I say I'm surprised that this was left out of the OP?)
No, since I actually stated that I was only going to pick out the juicy quotes in order to get reactions. Keep up.
Also, realistically, those "good points" aren't what I would call, well, good points. He acts on his beliefs, and will not be swayed. Which is great, unless those beliefs involve going out and bombing lots of people who were mean to his dad. It's also great for all those people in the white house. Yay Bible Studies sessions, and prayers before meetings.
Decency, honesty and courage are great and all, really. But I don't think many people are comfortable that the man in charge of the largest military ordinance in the world is impatient and quick to anger.
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Vogon Poet
Member # 393
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Gandalf W. Bush?! Oh, wait, that's subtle and quick to anger. . .
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Wraith
Member # 779
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VP: Yep, looks like it...
quote: But I don't think many people are comfortable that the man in charge of the largest military ordinance in the world is impatient and quick to anger.
Not to mention apparently has the IQ of a small (possibly boiled?) turnip...
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Daryus Aden
Member # 12
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That's grown into a rude & amusing shape?
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Nimrod Pimding
Member # 205
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Calling GWB a turnip is an insult to turnips!
They can be very intelligent at times, you know. Can't just throw them into boiling water, they'll resist with their last ounce of strength. Have to wait 'til they're sleeping, maybe sing a song for them.
Who is the VP? Does he, like, advise the president and keep tabs on him, or something? "Who watches the watchers" and all that?
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Vogon Poet
Member # 393
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I can dream. Maybe, you know, advise him to go play in traffic, or something. 8)
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Wraith
Member # 779
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Or go on holiday. To Baghdad.
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Timo
Member # 245
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it's a beautiful place. My old army pal had his honeymoon in Baghdad last fall... It's an obsession of his: see the world that isn't going to be around for much longer. He's done North Korea, too - twice, to get both the Kim Sr and Kim Jr versions.
Did people raise a ruckus about "excessive spirituality" when Carter was in office? How many cared about Reagan's astrology addiction? How much does the person of the US President really matter?
Timo Saloniemi
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TSN
Member # 31
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Depends upon whether the person of the president is looking to do terminal battle w/ the persons of the rest of the world.
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First of Two
Member # 16
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quote: Originally posted by TSN: Depends upon whether the person of the president is looking to do terminal battle w/ the persons of the rest of the world.
Can't matter that much. They let Bubba bombard Kosovo and launch all those cruise missiles during Operation Stained Dress.
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PsyLiam
Member # 73
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quote: Originally posted by Timo: Did people raise a ruckus about "excessive spirituality" when Carter was in office?
I can't say that my access to the internet was quite the same back then, so I don't know.
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TSN
Member # 31
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"Can't matter that much. They let Bubba bombard Kosovo and launch all those cruise missiles during Operation Stained Dress." Well, I didn't like him, either. What's your point?
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Vogon Poet
Member # 393
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Well, you see, the one thing Clinton did that Farquad and his ilk will never forgive him for is - he got away with it! Everything! They tried to impeach him (the same fate that sent their beloved Nixon running for the hills in a panic) and failed! Then there was the afore-mentioned bombing etc., which they couldn't even enjoy because he'd ordered it and it was by inference bad. And now he gets to walk the streets in no more danger than any other ex-President, when they would have liked to see him lynched. It's just so unfair, it makes you want to ignore the whole democratic process to make sure it never happens again. Oh, wait. . .
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