An Ohio Trucker, reportedly part of a plot to bring down New York's Brooklyn Bridge, has agreed to plead guilty to providing material support to a terrorist organization, U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft said Thursday.
quote:Al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is in U.S. custody, told interrogators that Faris was ordered to perform surveillance of the Brooklyn Bridge with the ultimate goal of cutting its cables, sources told CNN.
quote:Faris performed surveillance on the New York bridge, determined security was too tight at the site to succeed and sent a coded e-mail message to al Qaeda to relay that assessment, Ashcroft said.
So, apparently sometimes increased security DOES help...
Posted by Styrofoaman (Member # 706) on :
Unless this is really a hoax put out by the Shadow Government (lead by Ashcroft) to justify the whole "Homeland Security" nonsense.
(...takes cover behind wife...) Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
Careful, Styro. We have people here just paranoid and US-hating enough to believe that.
Posted by Styrofoaman (Member # 706) on :
quote:Originally posted by First of Two: Careful, Styro. We have people here just paranoid and US-hating enough to believe that.
Which is why it's funny. One of the people in my company has "proof" that the whole Bush election/9-11/homeland security thing is really an attempt by "them" to take over.
Never said who "they" were... but his logic is compelling in a bullshit-wacko-psychward kind of way.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Not that I wish they'd come up with a better one, but... I must say, that plot to bring down the Brooklyn Bridge by cutting its cables is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. It's like something a villian would do in a kid's movie. It obviously would not work, or, if it did, it probably would bring down the bridge at a very slow rate. And wouldn't somebody NOTICE a guy cutting cables with a blowtorch? (BTW, the cable-cutting thing isn't new info...they revealed some of Khalid's terror ideas back when he was captured in March...)
And, John Ashcroft, whether he reels in terrorists or not, is still Big Brother. I mean, look at those immigrant roundups! And he says he doesn't have ENOUGH power!
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
Darn, I have to call Mahmoud about this.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
Mahmoud in salad bar? he got fired.. haven't seen Ahmed in deli in a while either.. i guess homeland security works.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
IT WAS GODZILLA!!!
Posted by Cartmaniac (Member # 256) on :
"So, apparently sometimes increased security DOES help..."
Very good! You deserve freedom now.
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
He should plead insanity, living that long in the US is enough to drive anyone crazy.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
They talk about all these communications this character had w/ "al Qaeda operatives", but they don't say whether they actually have evidence of any of them. If this guy only says he's been in communication w/ al Qaeda and that he's met bin Laden and so forth, maybe he's just a run-of-the-mill looney. And of cource, Ashcroft would jump at the opportunity to yell "Look! You all thought he was a regular citizen! But he was a TERRORIST! VINDICATION FOR TIPS!".
Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
And Tips backwards is spelled Spit.
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: They talk about all these communications this character had w/ "al Qaeda operatives", but they don't say whether they actually have evidence of any of them. If this guy only says he's been in communication w/ al Qaeda and that he's met bin Laden and so forth, maybe he's just a run-of-the-mill looney. And of cource, Ashcroft would jump at the opportunity to yell "Look! You all thought he was a regular citizen! But he was a TERRORIST! VINDICATION FOR TIPS!".
If this were true, though, it seems highly unlikely that a higher-up member of Al-Qaeda, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, would have also identified him, as was clearly stated in the article.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Actually, no, it isn't. What the article says is:
"Sources told CNN that al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is in U.S. custody, told his interrogators the target was the 116-year-old Brooklyn Bridge."
So, what is says is that KSM identified the Brooklyn Bridge as a target. It doesn't say that KSM ever said anything about knowing this trucker.
As a matter of fact, it doesn't even really say that KSM said anything. All it says is that "sources" claim he did. So, we have an article on CNN w/ mysterious "sources" who are probably Ashcroftian minions, and you really expect me to take it at face value?
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
Someone re-wrote the article, because the original artile was written just so:
quote:Al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is in U.S. custody, told interrogators that Faris was ordered to perform surveillance of the Brooklyn Bridge with the ultimate goal of cutting its cables, sources told CNN
And quoted in precisely that manner by me.
Why they would rewrite the article, I don't presume to know, except that maybe a servitor of Nybbas (Demon Prince of the Media, in the "In Nomine" RPG) got to them.
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: As a matter of fact, it doesn't even really say that KSM said anything. All it says is that "sources" claim he did. So, we have an article on CNN w/ mysterious "sources" who are probably Ashcroftian minions, and you really expect me to take it at face value?
Well, perhaps not YOU, but there are several people on this board who give full credit to unnamed "sources" if it feeds their masturbatory "Bush is a liar" claims, so I figure that turnabout is fair play. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, really, then, you're saying that your arguement is as invalid as theirs, aren't you?
And, though I hate to imply that someone like CNN might be at all credible, it's possible that they rewrote the article because they were correcting it.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Now, now, TSN, you must learn to deal with people who believe everything our government says...they believe Bush is a saint, you know, a president who would never, ever, tell a lie... Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
quote:they believe Bush is a saint, you know, a president who would never, ever, tell a lie...
Well his initials are GW and we all know that anyone with the initials GW would not tell a lie.
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Careful, Styro. We have people here just paranoid and US-hating enough to believe that. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)