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An Ohio Trucker, reportedly part of a plot to bring down New York's Brooklyn Bridge, has agreed to plead guilty to providing material support to a terrorist organization, U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft said Thursday.
quote:Al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is in U.S. custody, told interrogators that Faris was ordered to perform surveillance of the Brooklyn Bridge with the ultimate goal of cutting its cables, sources told CNN.
quote:Faris performed surveillance on the New York bridge, determined security was too tight at the site to succeed and sent a coded e-mail message to al Qaeda to relay that assessment, Ashcroft said.
So, apparently sometimes increased security DOES help...
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Careful, Styro. We have people here just paranoid and US-hating enough to believe that.
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quote:Originally posted by First of Two: Careful, Styro. We have people here just paranoid and US-hating enough to believe that.
Which is why it's funny. One of the people in my company has "proof" that the whole Bush election/9-11/homeland security thing is really an attempt by "them" to take over.
Never said who "they" were... but his logic is compelling in a bullshit-wacko-psychward kind of way.
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Not that I wish they'd come up with a better one, but... I must say, that plot to bring down the Brooklyn Bridge by cutting its cables is probably the worst idea I've ever heard. It's like something a villian would do in a kid's movie. It obviously would not work, or, if it did, it probably would bring down the bridge at a very slow rate. And wouldn't somebody NOTICE a guy cutting cables with a blowtorch? (BTW, the cable-cutting thing isn't new info...they revealed some of Khalid's terror ideas back when he was captured in March...)
And, John Ashcroft, whether he reels in terrorists or not, is still Big Brother. I mean, look at those immigrant roundups! And he says he doesn't have ENOUGH power!
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Darn, I have to call Mahmoud about this.
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Mahmoud in salad bar? he got fired.. haven't seen Ahmed in deli in a while either.. i guess homeland security works.
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They talk about all these communications this character had w/ "al Qaeda operatives", but they don't say whether they actually have evidence of any of them. If this guy only says he's been in communication w/ al Qaeda and that he's met bin Laden and so forth, maybe he's just a run-of-the-mill looney. And of cource, Ashcroft would jump at the opportunity to yell "Look! You all thought he was a regular citizen! But he was a TERRORIST! VINDICATION FOR TIPS!".
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And Tips backwards is spelled Spit.
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: They talk about all these communications this character had w/ "al Qaeda operatives", but they don't say whether they actually have evidence of any of them. If this guy only says he's been in communication w/ al Qaeda and that he's met bin Laden and so forth, maybe he's just a run-of-the-mill looney. And of cource, Ashcroft would jump at the opportunity to yell "Look! You all thought he was a regular citizen! But he was a TERRORIST! VINDICATION FOR TIPS!".
If this were true, though, it seems highly unlikely that a higher-up member of Al-Qaeda, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, would have also identified him, as was clearly stated in the article.
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Actually, no, it isn't. What the article says is:
"Sources told CNN that al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is in U.S. custody, told his interrogators the target was the 116-year-old Brooklyn Bridge."
So, what is says is that KSM identified the Brooklyn Bridge as a target. It doesn't say that KSM ever said anything about knowing this trucker.
As a matter of fact, it doesn't even really say that KSM said anything. All it says is that "sources" claim he did. So, we have an article on CNN w/ mysterious "sources" who are probably Ashcroftian minions, and you really expect me to take it at face value?
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Someone re-wrote the article, because the original artile was written just so:
quote:Al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is in U.S. custody, told interrogators that Faris was ordered to perform surveillance of the Brooklyn Bridge with the ultimate goal of cutting its cables, sources told CNN
And quoted in precisely that manner by me.
Why they would rewrite the article, I don't presume to know, except that maybe a servitor of Nybbas (Demon Prince of the Media, in the "In Nomine" RPG) got to them.
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Careful, Styro. We have people here just paranoid and US-hating enough to believe that.
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