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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050126/ap_on_re_us/train_derail

Really, if you're gonna kill yourself, just don't take anyone else with you.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Cowardice and studpity set off a wave of heroism and selflessness.

I'm quite sure he'll be dead soon enough. If he doesn't get the whole suicide thing right before his trial, his prison stay will likely introduce him to a shiv before too long.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
And death....dont forget death.

Really, a rusty shiv is all this guy deserves.
 
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
 
Because thats the kind of thinking that will improve the human race...
 
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
I'm not thinking this guy deserves death, but someone's going to have to put up with "Hey aren't you that kid whose dad tried to kill himself but wound up killing all those people on the trains instead?" If that's not asking for a cycle of destruction, I don't know what is.

Also, forgive my morbid curiosity, but I kind want to know what kind of SUV it was.
 
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
Yeah, I woke up to this today... not a good day to start the day. I called my friend since she takes Metrolink from Moorpark to Union Station... she wasn't on the train thank god.
 
Posted by Jay the Obscure (Member # 19) on :
 
From this Associated Press story:

quote:
Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley said prosecutors filed charges late Wednesday for 10 counts of murder with "special circumstances" of committing murder through a train derailment. Cooley stressed however that the case were still being evaulated. Under state law, special circumstances allegations could make a defendant eligible for the death penalty.
And for Balaam's curiosity file:

quote:
Alvarez, 25, got out of his green Jeep Cherokee....

 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
The story's been all over NPR, and talk of the death penalty has been thrown around. Given his reason for being on the tracks, he should have no objection.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Captain Boh:
Because thats the kind of thinking that will improve the human race...

Exactly: this moron destroyed dozens of lives with his stupidity.
Think about it: dozens in critical condition, at least eleven dead (so far) and still dozens more injured.

And for what? He was not really going to kill himself- he'd changed his mind but instead of driving his car off the tracks, he just walked away....
Either he's a complete moron or he wanted the train to derail for kicks.


He deserves at least life in prison....so he can think on what he did.
 
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Either he's a complete moron or he wanted the train to derail for kicks.

Or he's increadibly unstable. alot of people who attempt suicide arn't exactly thinking rationally at the time. Unfortunatly, we don't know enough about the mind to really help people...
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
So us taxpayers will feed and house his forevermore....

Imagine what this is doing to his own kid (aside from all the families with dead/injured family members).

Gonna be some therapy sessions in his future for certain.

I've personally only met two kinds of people that attaempt suicide: some that really do attempt to end their lives and some that do outlandishly stupid things to make others feel sorry for them.

I cant say which category this guy falls into from a news report though.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Depending upon how close the train was when he changed his mind, if he had turned the car off, he may have had enough time to get away on foot, but not enough time to start the car and drive away.
 
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
So us taxpayers will feed and house his forevermore....


I'm certanly not saying the present system is perfect. But I'm sure that if you were ever extreamly unstable you wouldn't mind a little 'help' from it.

I guess its like an insurrance policy. You pay into it, but you hope like hell you never have to collect
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Actually, it's never occured to me that I may go nuts, get a lot of people killed and go to jail...

Okay, that's not precisely true:

It's never occured to me that I may go nuts, get a lot of innocent people killed and go to jail...not when there's snipers on rooftops anyway.
 
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
 
Hell you never know
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Jason, you'll only go nuts on a 1500th scale.
 
Posted by Nim' (Member # 205) on :
 
He's gonna park in front of a raging 6ft. train filled with gophers?
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Yes! "Won't somebody PLEASE think of the gophers!"
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
I model in 2500th scale, so I'll be a thoughtless menace to Plametto Bugs and possibly lab mice.

Three commuter trains full of Palmetto Bugs is a disturbing thought though...
 
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
I didn't know derailing trains was part of the "utility" of an SUV, too, but that's one function they ought to reconsider.
 
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
 
Trains should be high enough up that cars can't park on their traks... or underground
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Naaa...why go to all that expense when they could just install a cowcatcher on the trains?

Or possibly just electrify the rails.

Or best of all: install a sythe blade on the striped crossbar at the railroad tracks: that way it could swing down to behead bozos nad impatient motorcyclists....
 


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