This was another episode where, after I finished watching it, I was forced to ask "What actually happened in this episode?" And it boils down to "Picard stops to pick up another crew member. Oh, and Seven of Nine shows up in the last five seconds."
No Laris or Zhaban. Boo.
Also, no Hugh.
Geez, how many Emergency Fill-in-the-Blank Holograms does the La Sirena have? I think we're up to four now?
Okay, I'm sure the ship people here are going to pick apart the Rommy BoP, but it was good to see the old girl again. She hasn't shown up since TOS, correct? (No, I'm not counting the versions from Enterprise.)
Also, please tell me I'm not the only one who watched the trailer for the next episode and thought "Dear God this is going to be terrible..."
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
Pilot: "Hitting the ship's head . . . computer, activate EBH."
Computer: "Please clarify. Do you want the Emergency Buttwiping Hologram or the Emergency Bathroom Napkin-Guy Hologram?"
Pilot: "Both."
Picard: "Do you refer to the washroom attendant?"
Pilot: (Swigs alcohol and smokes something swaggeringly) "Oh hush, prissy British Frenchman. I'm not programmed for finery. I'm the Emergency Quasi-Toxic Masculinity Hologram, the lovable caveman / rogue with a heart of gold."
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
Legolas has joinded the quest.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spike: Legolas has joinded the quest.
Does that make Picard Gandalf and Rios Aragorn?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
There's more filler in this episode than a cart dog. Man, I could fight & win a land war in Asia in lest time than it takes to develop forward motion in this thing.
How do you say "ronin" in Romulan?
Picard channels Marcus Brody, apparently, with that white suit. They're also super playing up the old man thing. It's getting annoying.
Jeri Ryan has one line & a stage fall, & she gets a special guest credit in tHe opening. Jonathan Del Arco has actual work in an episode & is buried in the end creds. Hm.
RomBOP green wing trailing edges: impulse engines or warp glow?
"Emmet" & Rios speaking Spanish was a nice touch. I think it might've been a South American dialect.
The holostudy scene. I have no problem with everyone talking to/with Picard as they did, because these are not people under his command. They do not have to follow his orders. If anything, it's like a D&D party. Sure, he's the leader, but he's not in charge, & the rogue & bard are gonna let him fucking know it every chance they get.
Name for the evac transports: Wallenberg-class. So cutesy & walloping with the symbolism.
Isn't this supposed to be a 10-episode run? We're 40% through & dick all has been done. It's like the antocs of "Jean-Luc & The Junkyard Gang" insteas.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
Does anyone else think that something about the depiction of Romulans is off? Yes, they've gone through a lot but they don't behave like the Romulans we know like at all. They're far more human and approachable, even likeable. There's no trace that the Romulans and the Federation have been at odds for centuries; they're only pissed because the Federation abandoned the evacuation.
After the Zhat Vash a new Romulan group is introduced; the Romulan Warrior Nuns aka Qowat Milat. Yeah ok, whatever.
I suppose Jurati is our "guy" on the show. She doesn't know what's going on and thinks everything is bizarre.
Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :
I think it’s best when you watch picard with commercials. Feels like TNG without an episode conclusion.
I really feel for gurney halek, Raffi is the voice of reason it’s right she has to question his sanity.
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spike: Does anyone else think that something about the depiction of Romulans is off? Yes, they've gone through a lot but they don't behave like the Romulans we know like at all. They're far more human and approachable, even likeable. There's no trace that the Romulans and the Federation have been at odds for centuries; they're only pissed because the Federation abandoned the evacuation.
After the Zhat Vash a new Romulan group is introduced; the Romulan Warrior Nuns aka Qowat Milat. Yeah ok, whatever.
Here's the thing... this is exactly what I wanted from this show once I found out that the Romulans were going to play a big part in it. We've really only ever seen Romulans that were either government or military. In fact, the only instance I can think of where we've previously seen Romulan civilians was the "Reunification" two-parter. I want to see more of Romulan culture here in much the same way that TNG expanded our knowledge of Klingon culture. And let's face it, what we learned about Klingons in TNG didn't really gel much with what had come before either.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
I wonder if Peyton List knows that her character is supposed to be Narek's sister. There is some weird Lannister vibe going on between the two.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
I agree that most alien species in TNG such as the Romulans, Klingons, Cardassians, etc. were pretty much one-dimensional and cardboard. So yeah, it’s refreshing to see them as ‘real’ people now. Of course, from what I’ve seen so far, I think there’s a danger of them becoming *too* real (i.e. too many IRL human characteristics rather than something uniquely alien.)
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spike: I wonder if Peyton List knows that her character is supposed to be Narek's sister. There is some weird Lannister vibe going on between the two.
So Romulus is the West Virginia of the galaxy...
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
I know this feels like filler. Episodes like this saving up the budget for an episode or two with lots of special effects and action.
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hobbes: So Romulus is the West Virginia of the galaxy...
I've lived in West Virginia the vast majority of my life, so in the words of the immortal Montgomery Scott...
Laddie, don't you think you should rephrase that?
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Nah.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Name for the evac transports: Wallenberg-class. So cutesy & walloping with the symbolism."
I didn't even realize it was a reference. I had to look it up. I don't really mind, though. What I found odd, however, was that that Romulan would have any reason to drop the class name of the transport ships into his little speech.
"I wonder if Peyton List knows that her character is supposed to be Narek's sister. There is some weird Lannister vibe going on between the two."
I mean, she literally started to climb on top of him in the bed at one point. Honestly, I like everything else about the way she's playing the character, but that part's just bizarre.
"Also, please tell me I'm not the only one who watched the trailer for the next episode and thought 'Dear God this is going to be terrible...'"
I can say with absolute certainty that you are not.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Also, was anyone else surprised that Seven of Nine is apparently still going by "Seven of Nine"? You'd think, as she's regained her humanity, she'd go back to her real name.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Because Seven is a known name & Annika Hansen isn't.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Also, Picard probably knows her by that designation because of his days as Locutus. She’ll probably correct him later. Or not. Whatever.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I'm pretty sure Picard doesn't retain so much information from his time as Locutus that he would know any random ex-drone on sight. From the way she talks to him here and in the trailers that came out before the series started, I'm pretty sure we're going to find out that they know each other.
Maybe we'll find out that they worked together twenty years ago or something, and she was still pretty Borg-y at the time, and she's only started acting more human fairly recently. I guess we'll see on Thursday.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Can hardly claim Annika Hansen is her slave name and she’s accordingly renounced it.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
The writing on this show is hit-and-miss for me. I like a lot of the character work, but I don't get the sense that there's any focus on consistent world-building happening in the background. And Picard's dressing-down of Sword Boy for killing Romulan Senator missed an obvious opportunity. "That man did not deserve to die!" The only possible response, the one that would have illuminated Picard's near-suicidal behavior, is: "Neither do you."
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
quote:Originally posted by Krenim:
quote:Originally posted by Hobbes: So Romulus is the West Virginia of the galaxy...
I've lived in West Virginia the vast majority of my life, so in the words of the immortal Montgomery Scott...
Laddie, don't you think you should rephrase that?
Alright fine, Arkansas... it was just a joke relax man. I feel like I could have randomly picked any state and someone would be like, "Hey I lived there!"
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"And Picard's dressing-down of Sword Boy for killing Romulan Senator missed an obvious opportunity. 'That man did not deserve to die!' The only possible response, the one that would have illuminated Picard's near-suicidal behavior, is: 'Neither do you.'"
Yeah, that scene landed wrong for me, too. It's like, okay, Picard, we know you're not a big fan of people getting killed. But that ex-senator was literally half a second away from murdering you, and you're the one who hired a bodyguard with a sword. Swords don't exactly have a stun setting.
Also, they must have edited out the scene where he yelled at Laris, Zhaban, Jurati, and his own damn self for killing all those Romulans who broke into his house.