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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [QB] Kirk's retirement is a matter of some interpretation. In the Nexus, he relives the events that precede his first death by nine years, and talks about "returning to Starfleet". This would mean he came back from retirement just a smidgen before ST2 (unless the Romulan Ale date in that movie was some sort of a joke, and unless all other TOS movie dating is really skewered). However, the word "retirement" is never really uttered in the scene. Kirk could have been in active service, and merely on weekend leave to see Antonia - and instead of saying "Okay, that was fun, be seeing you, Sarah... Uh, Marie... I mean, Antonia" he now plans to say "To hell with Starfleet, I think I will retire now!" Conversely, "Generations" explicitly confirms Kirk is retired during the launch of the E-B. By Scotty's words, "Finding retirement a wee bit lonely, now are we?" Or something like that. In any case, a retirement period before ST2 cuts down on the credibility of a second 5-yr mission at that slot (especially if ST:TMP is pushed even further back from the current 2273 date to 2275 or something). And while a mission between ST5 and ST6 is a possibility, we hear that our heroes apart from Kirk have lost track of Sulu's whereabouts. And Sulu has been on assignment for *three fricking years*! If the rest of the Kirk bunch were on a joint mission prior to ST6, it must have terminated and the crew must have scattered before Sulu sailed out. Which means the mission can't readily have been a five-year one. Timo Saloniemi [/QB][/QUOTE]
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