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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by bX: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [qb] Its deep-running observations on the needs of human beings and how they are met are expressed through each subplot and event, coming together to form a cohesive and layered whole that can scarcely be compared to the hackneyed, juvenile antics of, say, TWOK.[/qb][/QUOTE]You take that back right now, mister. TSFS you could call hackneyed, TVH, trite from a certain point of view, TFF, I don't think you'll find any arguments there, and while TUC has its fans, it was definitely patterned after the Greatest Star Trek Film Of All Time Evar. No, but I'm not sure how the themes of all-consuming vendetta, loyalty, old-age/mortality, sacrifice, and the destructive aspects of creation could be catagorized as juvenile antics. I doubt Melville or Dickens would be inclined to agree. I don't see in what way bringing these elements together in a thrilling action movie that just happens to be set in in literal space directly proportional to those well-worn human themes--so you wind up with the main character in the throes of real pathos in the midst of a space-battle action-adventure saga with a final resolution so painful and yet so beautiful could be counted as hackneyed. Attack the other films if you must, talk about how Chekov wasn't in "Space Seed", mock the popularity of the Ceti Alpha system but if you go after the storytelling or themes in Khan, you better back that shit up. I am fully prepared to throw down for the second Star Trek movie. [/QUOTE][/qb] I love this post. Star Trek needs/needed/will need more fans like you. Seriously. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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