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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The359</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,23,21,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 23, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:55 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Alright, this is a simple question. Why are all organizaions except for the Federation uniracial? I mean, look at a Klingon ship, and there is nothing but Klingons. Same for Romulans and Cardassions. If these groups were so big, why wouldn't there be multiple types of aliens that are part of their alliance? I mean, if the Federation has 150 member worlds, the Romulans and Klingons have to have at least 200+, and of those 200+, there have to be different aliens then just simple Klingons. The only group I have seen with diversity is the Dominion, but even there, we only see 3 of the races, though we know there are two others only mentioned in one episode. Now, I know that makeup plays a big thing in this, but in the Trek Universe, why is it like this?<P>------------------<BR>"The one, the only, THE 359!"<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Shadow</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,23,22,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 23, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:04 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Welcome to the wonderful world of bad writing. At least we have the Son'a.<P>------------------<BR> <A HREF="http://frankg.dgne.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://frankg.dgne.com/</A> <br>Blitzwing: "If I want to know what's on your mind, I'll splatter it on the wall and see for myself!" <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Chimaera</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,23,22,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 23, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:20 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The federation is an alliance of many different worlds, with many different species. The other empires (Cardassian, Klingon, Romulan) are not, they are comprised of only one species, from one planet, that has colonized many other planets. This is why there are only Klingons on Klingon ships, and so on. There may be other races that these empires have conquered (such as the Bajorans were conquered by the Cardassians), but I think that they would have their rights and freedoms and priveleges limited in some way, they certainly wouldn't be allowed to serve on military vessels.<p><P>------------------<BR>"Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you."<br>-Commander Riker, USS Enterprise<p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>LB4747</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,24,3,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 24, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:21 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> You know, this could have been a great explanation for why TOS Klingons look different from the TNG era Klingons - they weren't true Klingons! They were some other humanoid race conquered by the Klingons a long time ago, and that adopted the traditions and culture of the Klingon Empire until they were fully integrated. Alas, the appearances of Kor, Kang, and Koloth in both eras voids this theory. But you do have a good point; I'd love to see a little more diversity within each of the major powers (though I wonder if the Romulans might be too paranoid to let any other race exist under their power).<p>------------------<br><b>Lawrence Boucher</b><br>"The first step to a successful revolution is destroying all competing revolutionaries."<p><small>[This message was edited by LB4747 on March 24, 1999.]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Orion Syndicate</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,24,8,1,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 24, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:01 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Hmmm, in Trials and Tribbleations, Bashir asked Worf what happened to the Klingons after seeing a TOS Klingon, and Worf said that they don't talk about it. It could be anything.<P>------------------<BR>"If it should become necessary to fight, could you arrange to find me some rocks to throw at them"<p><p><p><p><p> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Cargile</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,24,10,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 24, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:35 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Back to the diveristy topic, I thing they simply just have racists attitude about allowing other "inferior" races to join thier "elite" forces.<br>The Federation practices equality, while the other three practice domaninance.<P>------------------<BR><i>I'm the only one who understands me, and I ire of my company.</i><br>--Paul Cargile<p><br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Shadow</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,24,13,7,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 24, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:07 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> OTOH, most of Starfleet is human anyway...<P>------------------<BR> <A HREF="http://frankg.dgne.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://frankg.dgne.com/</A> <br>Blitzwing: "If I want to know what's on your mind, I'll splatter it on the wall and see for myself!" <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>jh</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,24,13,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 24, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:39 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I don't for sure that we've established that 'most' of Starfleet is human. We've certainly seen more humans but we also have references to all Vulcan ships and Starbases so there are probably all Bolian starbases closer to Bolarus. It just happens that most of our stories and action center around Human crews. <P>------------------<BR>"A screaming comes across the sky..."<br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>RW</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,24,14,41,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 24, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:41 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <br>MORE BOLIANS! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Shadow</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,24,14,57,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 24, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:57 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Perhaps...although the regular starbases seem to be "human" starbases...<P>------------------<BR> <A HREF="http://frankg.dgne.com/" TARGET=_blank>http://frankg.dgne.com/</A> <br>Blitzwing: "If I want to know what's on your mind, I'll splatter it on the wall and see for myself!" <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>jh</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,24,15,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 24, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:56 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I love the Bolians!! The next series should definitely have a regular Bolian character, forget more Klingons or Vulcans. Either a Bolian, Tellerite, or Andorian is my vote!<P>------------------<BR>"A screaming comes across the sky..."<br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Bernd</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,24,17,13,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 24, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:13 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Any race other than humans may do. BTW: Why are all human-looking people automatically supposed to be humans? There are a lot of races on different planets featured in TOS, TNG and also some in Voyager, that look exactly like humans.<P>------------------<BR>Brain. Brain. What is brain? (Kara the Eymorg, "Spock's Brain")<br> <A HREF="http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/" TARGET=_blank>www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/</A> <br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>grb</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,25,21,40,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 25, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:40 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, the crews that we've seen have probably been all huamns because we could better realte to them because we are human audiences (mostly human, anyway).<P>------------------<BR>"How many people does it<br>take before it becomes<br>wrong? 6,000? 60,000?<br>How many people does it<br>take admiral!?!" -Ambassador<br>Picard during his command<br>of the Enterprise-E in the<br>Ba'ku incident.<p><br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,28,21,31,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 28, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:31 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Regarding Klingon foreheads, a lot of interesting theories are exponded upon here:<p> <A HREF="http://www.sev.com.au/toonzone/sevtrek/klingon/theories.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.sev.com.au/toonzone/sevtrek/klingon/theories.htm</A><p>The theory proffered by JStaik1043 seems the most plausible to me.<p>My personal fave?<br>(not necessarily the most accurate):<p><center> <IMG SRC="http://www.sev.com.au/toonzone/sevtrek/strips/sevtrek004.jpg"> </center><p>--Baloo<p>------------------<br>CONSUMER NOTICE:<br>Because of the "Uncertainty Principle," It Is Impossible for the Consumer to Find Out at the Same Time Both Precisely Where This Product Is and How Fast It Is Moving.<p><small>[This message was edited by Baloo on March 28, 1999.]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Jordan</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,31,5,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 31, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:45 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> My guess is that the various races that the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, etc. have conqured are not as infranchised (sp?) as the Federation cultures....<p>And, yeah, I do think we could stand a healthly dose of regular UFP alien characters in a Trek series. Even if it's a Bolian. :-)<P>------------------<BR>Goodnight my love...the brightest star in my sky...<p>Goodnight...you have been my sky, my sun and my moon...<br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>jh</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,2,31,9,6,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">March 31, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:06 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Baloo: I checked out that site and I agree with you. In fact I posted a nearly identical theory on Psi Phi (or was it on one of the previous versions of this site?) a couple of years ago before it went kaput. In addition to his comments I want to add something I included in that original post. The idea that the difference in foreheads seem to be related to some social revolution is also supported by Dax's comments to Martok's wife in "You Are Cordially Invited" in which she says that the Klingons had a disastrous flirtation with democracy that is still being called "the dark period". Timewise it seems to coincide with the ages of Kor and Kang and the TOS period and Martok's wife's reaction was nearly the same sort of anger and embarassment that Worf displayed in Trials and Tribbleations when it was mentioned. <p>The thing this theory seems to have most in its favor is that its the only one that can be supported by interpretation of canonical facts and quotes. It's strange (and probably a little self-deluding) but I sometimes think that if we can get enough people to accept this definition that the writers may even use it someday and cement it. It certainly makes the most sense to me. <P>------------------<BR>"A screaming comes across the sky..."<br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Federation Shipmaster</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,3,1,16,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 01, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:46 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> About the Klingons: Tomy Myle's theory is similar tooen I read somewhere: Klingons in contact with the Federation were physically altered so that they could do some spying on the Feds.<P>------------------<BR>What bloke invented signatures? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Chimaera</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,3,1,17,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 01, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:04 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> *shrugs*<p>It's just a matter of budgets and make-up and how both improved with time. Personally, I think it's a little pointless to try to come up with theories regarding the klingon forhead, its just one of those things to which the golden rule of science fiction must be applied.<p>Golden Rule: Suspend all disbelief <IMG SRC="http://solareclipse.net/Forums/smile.gif"><p>P.S.: The sev trek theory is quite funny though.<br>------------------<br>"Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you."<br>-Commander Riker, USS Enterprise<p><p><small>[This message was edited by Chimaera on April 01, 1999.]</small> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Federation Shipmaster</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,3,1,22,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 01, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:19 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Call that Part 1. Part 2: If belief is not suspended, consult Part 1. <IMG SRC="http://solareclipse.net/Forums/wink.gif"><P>------------------<BR>What bloke invented signatures? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,3,2,23,54,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 02, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:54 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> While I used to advocate just ignoring it, "Trials and Tribble-ations" confirmed that the two kinds of Klingons are different, somehow.<P>------------------<BR>"The record of my unspeakable crimes, in previous lives, in previous times, indelibly stains the pages of history."<br>--<br>They Might Be Giants<br> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,3,3,0,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 03, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:19 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I'm sure Kor Kang and Koloth, wouldn't be too happy to here you saying that, they would assume themselves to be the same person for the last 150 years...<P>------------------<BR>Alamaraine, count to four... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,3,3,0,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 03, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:58 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, I won't go into my Klingon theory (which I'm about to send to the Sev people), but I'll egt back to the "why so many aliens in the UFP but not in the Klingon and Romulan Empires" question. That's kind of like asking why a UN forca has Americans, British, French, etc., but a Russian force only has Russians in it. And I'm not advocationg Klingons' representing the Russians, or anything like that. It's just a real-world example.<p>Erm... Russia isn't in the UN, is it? If it is, I just rather screwed up...<P>------------------<BR>"About as useful as a narcoleptic rickshaw driver."<br>-James Lileks <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Baloo</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,3,3,12,50,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 03, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:50 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Russia is not only a member, but they have a veto.<p>Blush away, TSN!<p><center><IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/8641/Wow.gif"></center><P>------------------<BR>COMPONENT EQUIVALENCY NOTICE:<br>The Subatomic Particles(Electrons, Protons, etc.) Comprising This Product Are Exactly the Same in Every Measurable Respect as Those Used in the Products of Other Manufacturers, and No Claim to the Contrary May Legitimately Be Expressed or Implied. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,3,3,23,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 03, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:56 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> D'oh! *smacks self*<P>------------------<BR>"About as useful as a narcoleptic rickshaw driver."<br>-James Lileks <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Bernd</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(1999,3,13,3,49,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 13, 1999</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:49 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The real Klingon problem is not the two different foreheads but the fact the flat foreheads were only seen in TOS and the ridge foreheads only in TMP and hence. Since it seems ridiculous and little honorable that whole ship crews were surgically altered (why?), the only remaining explanation is that there are two different Klingon races.<p>TSN: You had better taken the NATO and Russia as example. Still, there are not only Russians in the Russian army... <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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